1944 steel penny

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jrballard72, Apr 30, 2011.

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  1. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Since you will probably be prohibited from removing them from the holder and still get refund easily, make a couple yourself, one with pre-1982 copper cent, and a 1943 steel cent in a similar holder he/she sends and use them to compare weight.

    Jim
     
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  3. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    like mentioned above. what are the chances of 1 person having 2 of these extremely rare pennies. that right there screams FAKE to me. good luck. u are going to need it
     
  4. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    All I can say is, WOW...
     
  5. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    This is a complete waste of yours and ours time, please... Wild Princess has only ever sold One other item and that went negative feedback on her and now she has these priceless numismatic artifacts that you were lucky enough to grab before anyone else got to them. You should really play the Lotto if you think you have the sort of luck to beat the odds of these being fake. ROTFLMAO
     
  6. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

  7. jrballard72

    jrballard72 New Member

    no need for negativity, and if this is a waste of your time, it is very simple, don't read it. Seems stupid for people reading a thread about something that I clearly said was probably fake and was just looking for suggestions from people who might have valuable input to get upset about me wasting their time. If I am wasting anyone's time, please do not read...its that simple. Anyways, I will let everyone know how and when I almost certainly find out they are a fake...Stupid me for taking a shot in the dark on something that I don't really have to worry about any risk on if done correctly and I will do again if the opportunity presents itself.
     
  8. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    Are 1944S steel cents known to exist? I don't know much on the subject.
     
  9. jrballard72

    jrballard72 New Member

    There are only 2 I think that have been certified based on the little bit of research that I did
     
  10. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    You know, if I had the money to tie up in claims with Paypal, I'd be gambling on a lot of auctions with Ebay as well. You never know what you might find. I mean that sincerely. I will say though that the magnet test is pretty useless. Counterfeiters know this is the first go-to test that people will perform.
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Yes, one sold a while back at auction for $373K. They are more rare that a 1943 copper.
     
  12. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    With all due respect to the OP, ballardboy__, we are actually trying to help you save both time and money. The seller sold the exact same 2 rare coins to someone else just 3 days prior for $900! Plus $25 shipping. Item # 140538799550. Then sold them to you too, 3 days later for $975 plus $25 shipping. Reverse charges now. The odds of these coins being real are astronomically against you! I'd say it is a scam.
    Also seller is a member since April 16, 2011! Has scammed one buyer already. Look at the crap this seller listed but did not sell. Poodle Figurines??!! Obviously not deep in coins (maybe counterfeit ones)!
    Too many red flags!
     
  13. billyd624

    billyd624 Junior Member

  14. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    One sold item this seller has in description: "This is the first time I have listed these and I really enjoyed these coin's but my childs health is more important to me than collecting anymore. "
    possibly/probably means more than her(?) eBay account as well!
    I am sure the negatives are coming soon.
    Seller's items that are paid for: $700(negative), $661, $172.50, $975 so far...
    Wonder how long before they are NARU'd.
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    A nickel plating will result in the coins being attracted to a magnet, but the attraction will be weak. If they are really struck on steel planchets the attraction will be very strong. (coins will jump to the magnet if it is a decent magnet.)
     
  16. jrballard72

    jrballard72 New Member

    Appreciate the extra info on the seller, when I purchased the item, they did not have any negative feedback. As for the magnet test, I have enough steel pennies and I will directly compare. Anyways, with the extra negative feedback from this seller, I will get things checked out very quick (if I get the item at all).
     
  17. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    Wow, there are a bunch of old time sayings that fit this thread perfectly. The first one that comes to mind is A fool and his money shall soon part ways. Or perhaps you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Seriously to the OP, if something is too good to be true......Well you get the picture. If you like to gamble you should head down to AC. Although there are situations in this hobby where a gamble can pay off, the odds are certainly not in your favor. It takes years of experience not blind luck, or calculated risk. You could be in for an expensive lesson learned.
     
  18. jrballard72

    jrballard72 New Member

    Amazing how many people will enjoy their lives never taking any risk on things can live their boring lives the way they want. As for me, doing this has never burned me and I don't have a problem with doing it.

    The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, is nothing, and becomes nothing. He may avoid suffering and sorrow, but he simply cannot learn and feel and change and grow and love and live.

    "To win, you have to risk loss."

    Anyways, I'm sorry my personality and feelings about risk clashes so bad against some people on here but I understand that it will turn out fake (99.99% sure) but having protection from ebay/paypal in these transactions makes old Kevo's saying non applicable and makes it worth it to me.
     
  19. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    Going after risky items on eBay can sometimes be quite entertaining and even profitable. Recently i got a nice proof coin for a relatively low price, just because there were marks and scratches on it. Problem is, i was the only one who realized the scratches are on the airtite and the coin turned out to be perfect.

    I would not risk anything that is close to $1000 or even $500 though. PayPal is not an authority that can be blindly trusted even when you don't buy anything, not mentioning opening disputes. There are a lot of complaints about accounts and funds frozen without any reason, in many cases accounts remained inaccessible even after sending perfectly valid ID and proof of identity documents.

    There are just too many proofs of PayPal's inadequate behavior, especially if you draw their attention in any way. Something bad might happen if they notice a buyer who, for example, constantly buying high priced items and then opens disputes for a refund.
     
  20. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    You stated earlier that you were previously recompensed for some fake gold coins that you purchased. Aren't you worried that you could be burned by ebay/paypal for excessive abuse of their policies? I know i would be. The buyer protection offered by ebay is in place to protect consumers from fraud, not provide a safety net for your knowingly risky purchases. Perhaps you should read up their policies just in case they tire of your repeated claims, or begin to notice a pattern in your "use" of their services. This is an excerpt from ebay policy regarding buyer protection.

    "Buyers who fall under the "Abusing eBay" conditions are subject to our remedies as described in the User Agreement. In addition, we reserve the right to temporarily, indefinitely or permanently suspend your coverage under the eBay Buyer Protection Policy, immediately and without prior notice, if we suspect abuse, excessive cases, tampering or interference with the proper working of eBay Buyer Protection."

    See the part that reads excessive cases? My interpretation of that reads that people who have too many claims just may be excluded from buyer protection, and just might open the door to fraud on your behalf.
     
  21. jrballard72

    jrballard72 New Member

    the gold coins were not done through ebay, and I can't remember the last time that I had a problem (if ever) with an ebay item. I don't think that applies at all right now. I am not actively looking just for risky investments, and ebay protects the items that are being sold that they are as described. I am not being petty with these claims, if things are fake then they want to protect the buyer.
     
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