Trajan AR Denarius - 'Heroic Bust' PRO - VID reverse

Okay, I looked all over wildwinds trying to find this coin with this bust type, but they all show the bust 'seen from behind' with full drapery (alot of them also describe Providentia as leaning on a column, but even the pictures they show along with the reference show her standing with a long sceptre like in my example).
This one is clearly 'seen from the front' and has only slight drapery, and looks exactly like a bust style used on coins of Hadrian, such as this example I am showing at the bottom with the blue backround.

So, I wanted to see if anyone can give me a proper reference and info on this coin?
I also was wondering what you guys think of it? It's only my second coin of Trajan, and I like it more than my Aeternitas holding the head of Sol and Luna one. I like the bust the most, I always loved this bust on the Hadrian issues and had never even seen it on a Trajan Denarius.

here is the only info I have on this guy:
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Emperor Trajan ( 98 - 117 A.D.)
Silver Denarius, Rome Mint.

obv: IMP CAES NER TRAIAN OPTIM AVG GER DAC PARTHICO
rev: P M TR P COS VI P P SPQR - PRO-VID across field

Weight: 3.08 Grams
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*The last photo with blue backround is a Hadrian coin I have with a similar bust style, sometimes called 'Heroic Bust' style.

 

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Trajan
OBV: IMP CAES NER TRAIAN OPTIM AVG GER DAC, laureate draped bust right
REV: PARTHICO P M TR P COS VI P P SPQR, PRO VID across field. Providentia standing left with scepter & globe
RSC 314

stainless

 

Nice pick up btw, rex. It looks like theres a lot of dealers who didn't even bother trying to reference it, and just attributed. I was able to find a few, and the RSC's matched..RSC 314.


stainless

 

I saw RSC 314 on Wildwinds and the bust on mine is different than the one on the examples they show.... they are all 'draped, seen from behind' whereas this one is seen from the front.....

Do you have a link to the ones you found? Do they have the same bust type?
Thanks for the help stainless.

 

Very nice. I love that portrait.

 

Thats a really nice portrait. I like it too.

I really need to build up some early empire pieces....

 

That one is rad! really like the heroic style.

 

Sure thing Rex I'm on my iPhone right now but I'll get you the link when I get near a laptop

Stainless

 

I cant find anything either, just RIC364, RSC 315. :/

 

Yea it was sold as being RSC 315, but the bust doesn't match.

Thanks stainless, take your time mate.
*Also, the 'PARTHICO' is at the end of the obverse titles and not the beginning of the reverse titles like on some. I can also make out dots, or periods between the letters on the reverse, most noticeable in the ' P P SPQR ' at the end of the reverse titles.

 

Everyone on vcoins has it either as RSC 314, 315, or RIC 364.

EDIT: unless I'm missing something, RIC 364 on wildwinds is the same example as yours...look at the image:

http://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/trajan/RIC_0364.jpg

stainless

 

different bust

 

-~- Seen from the Front vs. Seen from Behind -~-

Yeah, like randy said, different bust, you can see the one in the picture that your link goes to is fully draped and seen from behind or from the side as some say, whereas my example is only slightly draped on the far shoulder, and the chest is seen from the front.... also you can see the Emperor's closer shoulder is bare.
The one in the link has the right titles as mine though, with the '...PARTHICO...' on the end of the obv titles instead of the beginning of the reverse, but still different bust type.
Do you have links to the original vcoins listings? they may give these reference numbers, since they are pretty close, aside from the bust variation, but they could have the style of bust as mine.... this one I got was labelled as RIC 314 when I purchased it.... so....
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*EDIT*take a look I made a collage showing mine with the one you linked to on wildwinds, and another PRO VID one with the same bust.... you can see the two on top from wildwinds have a fully draped bust, and you can see none of his chest, whereas mine, like the hadrian of the type(shown in the two obv pics below the first 'collage' pic), has the chest visible, and only a slight drapery on the far shoulder..... bad collage work but you get the idea....

 

Ah duh, I see it now. I guess it would helped if I examined the coins a little more. lol. mah bad.

stainless

 

tough one,

so far no luck just these

http://www.coinproject.com/coin_detail.php?coin=234063

one with aegis
http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/nemesis/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=9569

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/marcantica/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=1738

http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=338653

 

Nice find, very noble bust

Q

 

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/nemesis/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=9569

this one has the same bust.... however it has the title PARTHICO on the reverse instead of obverse..... but this is the only one shown by anyone so far with a frontal bust like mine, what I have heard called a 'Heroic bust ' on issues of Hadrian. Thanks Randy. Aside from the placement of the word PARTHICO, that one seems the quite close. Again described as being RSC 314, even though all the other examples of RSC 314 I have seen have a totally different bust.

Thank you Cucumbor it means alot coming from you. I do find the bust to be very noble as well.

 

Love the history behind these coins. Good stuff!

 

Wow! That's quite a legend on the obverse of the coin. I can't imagine trying to get all those letters (38) on the coin. What a piece of numismatic art and history. :too-cool-for:

Interestingly, the coin celebrates Trajan's military successes in Germania (Ger), Dacia (Dac) and Parthia (Parthico).

A nice piece of history from when "Rome ruled the world."


g.

 

There are several sestertius obverse legends that break into the 40's. I assume medallions break that record.