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  1. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    I lost you. They have new holders and after that its a blur. What was there old policy. What is their new policy. How can someone be confused.

    As i recall ANACS in the past marked cleaned coins as clean in plain english on the lable. I think my Flying Eagle has that. Cleaned, MS details.

    You have to read the lable right? The change in grading standard is more of a problem, IMO. And since 15 years ago what would be an MS69 is today a MS63, you have a bigger problem with the slabs in general than the clearly labled problem coin.


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    mrbrklyn, Feb 28, 2006
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  3. mrbrklyn

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    What does that mean. Are they putting AU58 on coins in old holders without saying on the lable that the coin was cleaned? Because THAT would not only be deceptive, but it DESTROYS the value that collectors put into their service over the last decade.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Feb 28, 2006
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Yes - that's exactly what it means.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 1, 2006
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No longer - now if the coin has MS details it will have MS on the slab and no notation of it being cleaned. The only way you can tell it is a problem coin is if it is in the old style holder.

    {quote]You have to read the lable right? The change in grading standard is more of a problem, IMO. And since 15 years ago what would be an MS69 is today a MS63, you have a bigger problem with the slabs in general than the clearly labled problem coin.


    Ruben[/QUOTE]


    You've got that a bit backwards. In the old days if it was 63 - today it is likely a 64/65. My concern is that now their grading standards have become even looser. That 63 from the old days may well be slabbed as a 66 today.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 1, 2006
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  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    How can you tell if all the coins from past years are in old slabs. What will distriguish the old coins from the new problem coin slabs?


    Not accoding to that book that Speedy pointed me to last week.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Mar 1, 2006
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  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Sure it does....it talk about grading today....and if you go back to an older guide you will see how grading has changed....
    I thought the one I saw still had cleaned on it.....maybe I didn't see the new one.

    Speedy
     
    Speedy, Mar 1, 2006
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  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Your right. But your mixing up quotes. Doug said that the new problem coins say MS60 and are just in old holders.


    As for the book that you gave a link, it clearly said that 15 years ago (from its publication I assume), grading was looser with mint coins routinely being given MS69's which are MS63's today. I then quote that on the board and Doug commented on it. Now purhaps since then grading became very strict and now is being losened again, I can't say and have no knowledge of such ;) I leave that for those who were there which is not me.

    Ruben
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    mrbrklyn, Mar 1, 2006
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  9. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Yep--I knew GDJMSP said that.....


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    Speedy, Mar 1, 2006
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    Speedy, Mar 1, 2006
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  11. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Always Right

    Finally after a long journey the tattas in the guise of a Geographic Magazine arrive upon my postal address, and thence I see said ad. Coin ads in a tatta magazine, ah what the world have come to?:whistle:

    If you insist on inquiry what I am spaking of, do peruse through to page 75.
     
    Krasnaya Vityaz, Mar 1, 2006
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  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Its not a complete disaster then. If the slab says in plain English "CLEANED" then the only problem is for the French. And I don't like the French anyway. They deserve whatever they get for refusing to learn English.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Mar 1, 2006
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ruben -

    I posted what I said, because up until today that was the information I had.

    From the ANACS web site -

    And, ANACS spokesmen have repeatedly stated that ANACS will no longer net grade coins - that the grades assigned to problem coins would be based on detail and/or wear only.

    Today, in another thread, I got to see the new old style holder ANACS is using for the first time. Rather obvioulsy, they are still making a notation about the problem. And on these new old style holders the ANACS logo is blue, on the old holders it was green.

    I'm tickled to death to see that they are still making the problem notation on the slab.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 2, 2006
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  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    And you have absolutely NOTHING to say about the French (or National Geographic for that matter)?

    wow [​IMG]
     
    mrbrklyn, Mar 2, 2006
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    OK - just for you. I love the older French coinage, especially the gold :eat: As for the N.G. - good magazine, I always liked it ;)
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 2, 2006
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