Are they German hammered coins?

2 small hammered coins.
Above one, weight 0.48g, diameter 16.5mm.
Below one, weight 0.36g, diameter 13.8mm.
Are they German coins? And their time? Thanks!

 

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I do know that there are a lot of hammered Germans.

 

Thanks Ripley!
But any idea about their time?

 

i have certainly never seen anything like those in the german states hammered catalogues, methinks that they could be from somwhere else, where i don't know but i am sure they are not from germany.

 

time frame would be c.1100-1300

 

the top one is Bavarian for me , you can Id it from the coat of arms
the second should be a hand heller from the city of Hall

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/calga...riesAndProducts.asp?idcategory=188&curPage=61

regards

 

What a coincidence, ricks2! That's exactly what I thought!
I just told my friend the top one may be from Bavaria because of its coat of arms.
And I am checking the handheller from Schwäbisch-Hall these two days. But I find the reverse is something different.

Thanks rick2!

 

Germany Schwäbisch-Hall Stadt Handheller silver Hellea