Angelic Question

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Prince, Feb 25, 2006.

  1. Prince

    Prince New Member

    Ok, I know everyone will say that it has been asked a million times, but I did searched and I really didn't see what I was looking for.

    I am wondering what I could keep my collection in, like I think a gun safe would be overkill, but maybe a smaller safe? Or are there certain boxes? I will be keeping in it some coins in individual cases, some albums, some coins withoiut anything on them. And please tell me where I could pick up something good to keep them all in, a link would be angelicly nice!!!
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Do a search with the term " coin storage " - you'll find all the info you care to read ;)

    As for a supplier - JP's Corner
     
  4. ertw

    ertw New Member

    Not really an expert on this issue. Just wanted to add though that with those smaller "fire safes" that you can pick up at hardware stores that moisture could be a concern. You may need to use a dessicant to control that. Not sure about gun safes though.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Moisture is ALWAYS a concern, regardless of the kind of safe or storage method you use. Silica gel packs are definitely a must.

    By the way, the idea that fire safes put off moisture is a myth. I've used them for years and never had a problem. You see, they only put off moisture in a fire.
     
  6. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I generally keep my high value coins in a safe deposit box, mid value coins in a safe at home, and low value coins in a box in the closet. If the desire is to keep them all in one place, a gun safe is the best suggestion I have heard.
     
  7. Prince

    Prince New Member

    I am just wondering, with a 2x2 thing, do the coins need to be in cases? And safes, my collection isn't worth that much yet so a safe would be overkill unless anyone can please gimme a link to a nice cheap one :D
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Its best to put the coins in deep space tio minimize the moisture and oxidation (then there are only the cosmic radiation!)
     
  9. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I usually keep 2X2s in Harris coin wallets. There are slots for 60 2X2 holders in each one. I think there is also a smaller size that fits into a safe deposit box. For me, they are the perfect solution to organizing and storing 2X2s in a relatively small space because they are smaller than three ring binders. I've purchased them from Michael's craft stores, coin dealers, and from jpscorner.com. They are about $5 each.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    You might want to reconsider that. The wallet pages are made of vinyl. That means they contain PVC.
     
  11. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    You are probably correct and maybe I trust the companies too much when they sell these things. So far I've never had any PVC damage to a coin in a 2X2 because it doesn't come in contact with the vinyl. The original question was about storing a fairly low-value collection. This is what I generally use for my low-value coins since I can't see paying almost as much for the storage as for the coin itself. I generally use airtites for the better coins.

    This leads me to another question. Canada sells the one ounce silver maple leafs in a soft plastic (vinyl?) holder. I've seen and purchased coins still in the original holders from the 1980s with no damage. Should the maple leafs be removed from the plastic or is it safe in the original mint packaging?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If it's soft vinyl - it's got PVC. And having your coins stored in that environment is like having a ticking time bomb sitting on your coins with no idea of when it will go off.

    Many coin dealers/sellers ship the coins you buy in these soft flips. They do this because the soft flips are cheaper. But at the same time the dealers/sellers assume you know that the coins should not be kept in these holders but placed into a non PVC holder as soon as you receive the coin.
     
  13. Prince

    Prince New Member

    What kind of cases for almost worthless coins would be good? Thos cardboard things you staple?

    And what is the difference between 2x2s and 1x1s and 1.5x1.5s?
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes.


    Just the size is different.
     
  15. Prince

    Prince New Member

    Should I put uncirculated coins in the ones you need to staple?
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    If it were me I wouldn't. But a lot of people do. You might want to do a search on the forum for the words "coin storage". You'll find a lot of info and various opinions.
     
  17. Prince

    Prince New Member

    For the size of the 2x2s, is it like 2 coins fit into one, like they are attached, or is it like how big the cardboard around it is.

    And they cannot damage coins can they?


    :eat:
     
  18. Midas

    Midas Coin Hoarder

    It is 2 inches by 2 inches SQUARE!!

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    Then you can put them in sheets like this:

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    Which can go into a binder like this:

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    Keep them high and dry and the world is good. Make sure your squeeze the staples or use a stapler that will do it for you.

    I HOPE THIS HELPS, otherwise search the forum for more tips
     
  19. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Hasn't been brought up millions of times but thousands for sure. Now if you want my suggestions on this subject, there are many methods to storing coins.
    Go to a funeral home and buy well paded coffin. Keep this in you bedroom with you coins in there. It will not really protect the coins from tarnishing, toning, etc but for safety, can't be beat. How many crooks would look in there.
    Then there is the ceptic tank method. Have a sewer company put in a false ceptic tank in your back yard. Crooks will never look in there either. Don't keep your best ones in there though due to the excessive moisture in the ground.
    If you put the coins in a safe or meta gun cabinet and there is a fire, the metal will absorb the heat extensively and cook your coins. If sufficient heat, you'll end up with one big coin in the shape of a blob.
    Now if you know someone in the construction buisness, have them pour you a concrete box, insert all your coins, cover with more concrete. You will now be leaving a time capsule for the future coin collectors.
    Myself, I put almost all my best coins in the banks safe deposit box. I keep all albums, 2x2's, Mint proof and Uncirc sets in plastic like the baggies used for the freezer foods. Many of the coins I have by the roll are in plastic rolls and the cover is sealed with scotch tape. I also have a heck of a household dehumidifier although that is no big thing. I do not and never have used silica or other moisture absorbing stuff. If you are in an area where the humidity is normally over 30%, you would need tons of that stuff. I have been a coin collector for well over 50 years and do not have any toning, tarnishing, corroding problems on any of my coins.
     
  20. Prince

    Prince New Member

    Casket, ROFL LOL THAT MADE ME LAUGH :eek:

    And, they have those 2x2 boxes, are those good to put them in?

    And with the staplers, do the ones they sell at jps corner do it for you?
     
  21. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    The question about the difference in the 1x1, 1 1/2 x1 1/2, 2x2. Not just the size, but the cost naturally. I don't like the smaller than 2x2's though. I like a little room around the coin inside. You don't have to staple you know. They can be closed with tape. It takes longer but seals better. Easier to open with a small knofe blade. I had a bad experience opening a stapled 2x2. I used a screw driver on a MS64 Lincoln Cent dated 21S. The stupid screw driver slipped and ran accross the coin. Now it's tape.
    Naturally all PVC's contains Vinyl. PVC stands for Poly Vinyl Chloride. Note however, that although all PVC's are plastics, not all plastics are PVC's. Sort of like all Chevy's are cars but not all cars are Chevy's. Since this is not a chem class, I won't elaborate further. Can be verified in a book written by some guy named Webster.
    As to storage, All my extra coins are put into 2x2's, Then the 2x2's are put into these long, cardboard boxes I purchased at coin shows that hold a few hundred 2x2's. This is then put into a large freezer type plastic bag and taped shut. No problems in the last 50+ years. If there is any bad reactions to this system in the next hundred years, I'll let you all know.
     
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