Helping my neighbor

Hello Everyone.
My neighbor came over today and asked if I could help identify this note.
He knows I collect coins,so he thought maybe I would be able to help him.
He said he found it behind an old picture of his Grandparents.
I have very little knowledge of notes,but I do know where to get help.
Thanks luke

 

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I think you're going to need a specialist to look at this in person. The condition of the paper looks almost too perfect, and it may be a copy. If it were real, I seriously doubt that someone would write on the back of a 200 year-old note.

Chris

 

its a fake colonial note

 

Thanks guys,I haven't a clue,but I should of at least know,
if it looks to good to be true it probably is.

 

Yeah, that reeks of fake.

 

My knowledge is very limited on these type of currencies but I did find what a genuine one would look like for you and your neighbor. These are called Red Stag notes..I am sure you can see the difference in the papers. Now I am not saying yours is a fake, I am not even sure if notes were printed w/o the red color. Also the dates are a little different June on this Note and Sept on yours.

I would say contact a specialist to be certain. The note I posted is in VF and runs ~ $2000 to $2100


RickieB

 

Thanks Rickie,
I'll wait and see if we have any experts that are willing to comment.
This may or may not get interesting.
luke

 

+1

 

Looks to be a reproduction:

http://www.histdocs.com/home/productpages/800.php?cat=Colonial Times and Revolutionary War

 

Yep Repo I'm sorry to say.

 

I'd say counterfeit as well. However, that may not be a bad thing. Some period counterfeits of certain notes are more valuable than their genuine counterparts. Both the north and the south made counterfeit notes of the other's money to attempt to devalue their money by eliminating the trust of the citizens. I'm not sure, but I would think the British might have done the same to early American currency, such as the piece in question.
Guy

 

Modern reproduction, sorry to say. As you can see my note has the same serial number as yours. They were released during the Bicentennial.

Richard

 

I would differentiate the counterfeits made by the British with the aim of economic depredation and the modern reproductions which are created solely to cater to tourists as novelty items. The modern reproductions are practically worthless, but the contemporary counterfeits particularly of some of the Continental issues are very collectable - and even more interesting than the real Continentals.

 

+1

 

Thanks for the help.My neighbor says he will hang on to the note.

 

At a show I attended recently there was a Registry Set of this type of currency (PCGS). Besides the feel of the paper, which I cannot do, you can tell by the handwritten ink on it. If I understand correctly what was explained to me, the actual printed part used soaks into the paper & on genuine examples the printed portions are almost fresh-looking, while the hand-written portion fades away over time, unable to be absorbed and retained as well as the actual print. Hope this helps, or if I've misunderstood this facet ot forgery detection I hope someone will set me right.

 

silentviolent
did you look at my post of my note with the identical serial number?

 

Same serial number as the one in the link I posted as well.

 

Thank you for the link Ikandigit. Good information on counterfeits.

 

I've seen it now, thanks. lol now I'd like to see the authentic one next to it. The handwritten ink on those forgeries is bolder than the type print, which again should spell trouble all by itself, as it should be faded due to the paper used at the time.