1943 Steel Lincoln Wheat Cent with/ Doubling on "D" mint mark

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by LarryLove50, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    I just want a little LOVE, that's all. Be humble, when being HELPFUL. Not all Nonchalant and Arrogant, you feel Me? Respect is due to a Dog.
     
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  3. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Doubled die and variety vista list ALL attributed RPMs and assigns them an identification number. If you had looked at either site YOU SHOULD HAVE POSTED THE ID NUMBER OF THE EXACT MATCH. If you are serious about everybody being wrong and bent on showing the group your "numismatic expertise" WHICH ONE EXACTLY MATCHES YOUR COIN?

    BTW: how can you claim its a D/D south??? Where are the split serifs that indicate the RPM is south? The answer is there are no split serifs because there is no RPM.

    Will be waiting for you to post the ID number, or a pic Of the split serifs and other characteristics. FYI, if you don't know them, check the links on my previous post. They are very helpful to inexperienced collectors

    Please read my post before responding next time. It will save you some embarrassment. However, I really think you're wasting your time. Based On your responses that lacked any sort of numismatic knowledge (ok, you did know the RPM location designation, so you can't pretend to be a complete newbie), it's pretty easy for CT MEMBERS TO RECOGNIZE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A TROLL, Too bad we will probably never figure out which alt member you are. Hope this doesn't hurt your feelings again. I'm sure we will be seeing you trolling again under a diff alt ID, but next time please be a little more creative.
     
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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It does not matter if the coin is reprocessed or not. Either way it has been messed with and has very little value.
     
  5. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    You said
    Respect is due to a Dog

    But not to an internet troll.

    You can never get respect by DEMANDING it. Respect must be EARNED. On these boards, you earn respect by the quality and content of your posts.

    Now go back and look at what you've posted. Anything that would help a person learn something?? Any specific referencing to helpful websites or info? Anything other than unsubstantiated opinions? Anything other than attacking members who thought they were helping you?

    Go ahead and demand all you want, but I think you're getting all the respect you've earned.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Hey, @LarryLove50
    Kinda like this, we would like to see some details of the doubling.
    Ok this isn't the best details in a photo. MM RPM's and doubling can sometimes be troubling to photo. They are for me.
    It all depends on the coin.
    Pf 69S Lincoln
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    In the coin above you can see the doubling on the date. The same type of doubling can also be seen on the MM and in the same direction.
    This is not a Doubled Die nor is it an RPM.


    Doubling like this is considered and proven to be a malfunction in the striking process. Not a doubling of the working die.

    RPM's are a different beast. They were hand punched into the working die before the die was hardened. A double tap of the hammer often left a raised and defined doubling on ONLY the MM.

    We would Love to see some close up photos of your coin, that is if you can do better.

    Phil
     
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  7. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    best i could do with the camera im using for the shots.
     

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    LarryLove50 Member

    The Best I Could Do.
     

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  9. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Newbie here - I'm actually getting a lot out of this thread! :)
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thats the point Mr. Luck!
     
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thats definitely better. Honestly try to stabilize the coin and the phone/camera to get sharper images.
    It's still hard to see the details but I can tell that the coin is reprocessed. These steel planchets were punched out of a sheet after the zinc plating was applied. It leaves a two tone color on the third side. Part steel and part Zinc on the edges.

    So we can eliminate one of the issues.
     
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  12. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Look at the edge pic.

    The blanking process for making the 1943 cent blank uses a strip that was plated (galvanized) with zinc BEFORE IT WAS PUNCHED OUT (thanks @Pickin and Grinin , you posted this info while I was still typing:banghead:). Sometimes (not always) you can see the diff layers of steel and zinc if there's some smearing during the blanking process. Over time, the steel can SOMETIMES start to corrode or tone, making it visible

    When a steel cent is reprocessed, the ENTIRE surface is plated, including the edges. Most times, the surfaces show that unnatural, shiny appearance. While this isn't absolute proof of reprocessing, it is a strong indication that the coin was replated and that's what's causing the surface anomalies.

    I'm wondering why Larry didn't include those details? He's already told us that everyone here is just having fun saying he's wrong. You would think someone with his claimed level of expertise would be adding this information to support his claim and help others learn. Oh well, guess you can't have everything

    BTW Larry. Did you every check variety vista and doubleddie.com to verify the RPD attribution? What about pointing out where you see the split serifs or other characteristics of RPDs? Sorry if this is the third time I asked, but as you know, it's by far the quickest and easiest way to confirm the coin is an RPD as you claim. Any reason why you continue to ignore this simple request?
     
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  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Im very happy and sure there are others who are happy when we can help a new collector learn about the hobby. Keep hanging around and ask questions. Since I've been here, I'd say that 99% of the consensus answers are accurate and correct. (and the other 1% are really challenging subjects). Thanks
     
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  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    If it has been "Appraised" then why not show the Slab that it is in?
    Or is Appraised here given value for insurance purposes from some guy with an appraisal book ?

    If it has been authenticated (not appraised) and slabbed then it's authenticity is identified by the authenticator such as PCGS, etc.

    I'm sure we all can "appraise" it too.
    But very few of us can Authenticate and Slab it (there's one or two active members that comes to mind).

    Years ago I contacted a local highly regarded appraiser. I found out that they only appraise coins that have been authenticated and slabbed. Of course, an appraisal is for insurance purposes. And an insurer would want to have some confirmation of their value, thus the PCGS, etc attribution requirement.

    Thus from that experience, if someone has appraised your coin, I assume it has been slabbed.
     
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