Need help before I buy!!!!!!

That is why this is such a great fourm Alan! Stick around long enough and you will learn pretty quickly.
Glad you asked, many people who are new to collecting would buy it, then post the photos and ask only to find they made a mistake.
So Kudos to you for that, nice job! (see you already learned something)

Mark in NJ

 

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After rereading fret's post I agree. I read it the way it was written and did not grasp what he had intended to say.

When I first read that I thought it meant, "I think this coin is a 1908-S, which is a very valuable coin."

Sorry for any confusion that may have caused.

 

So for us newbs - the two big giveaways that this coin were cleaned are the color being far too... bright and shiny given the age of the coin, and the multiple marks in the same alignment.

Did i get that right?

 

Pic is way over lit to hide the hairlines. Anybody wanna throw the seller under the bus so
i can stay away?

 

Mosty correct yes, BUT there are bright and shinny morgans that haven't been cleaned, others as well. Just because you cant see hairlines does not mean it hasn't been cleaned. There are so many ways coins can be cleaned some of which are nearly impossable to detect, heck, NGC and PGCS let them slip by once in a while and they are supposed to be the "pros".

We can tell easily on this one because of the hairlines and the color of the coin. This coin wasn't that color seconds after it came out of the press I don't think. I would even say it may have been chemically cleaned to make it that color. IMO
Of course I could be totally wrong about that.

 

Mmm thanks for helping clear that up for me.

I do agree with Kevo above, who mentions the lighting in the picture.... it's definitely washed out. Excessive use of really cold white light is a great way to eliminate subtle detail in your subject.

 

kitch,

Search the threads here for "luster". You need to be able to distinguish between a a coin with luster and a coin that has been polished. (A polished coin is 'shiny' and, to inexperienced collectors and non-collectors, looks great when, in fact, the coin has been destroyed.)

 

that looks like a vette listing.. no worries with that guy if you don't like the coin. he refunds no questions asked. if it is who I think it is.... he is a very large volume seller - doesn't have the rarer coins like GSC but certainly has a similar volume

 

OK guy's how about this one


Thank for all the fed back
it relay helped
Alan

 

It WAS a very nice cent. H ow can he outright lie like this? He sure doesn't let ethics and morals and principles like truth and honesty get in
the way of his greed. Why not tell it and sell like it is. He save himself a lot of shame. zeke

 

How about a nice clear photo. I'm not a detective. Again why hide the truth with a bad pic.

 

Yep that's right. :thumb:

 

Hard to tell with blurry pics but that does not look like a full step nickel. With over a million produced 6 full steps are common for this year. I would steer clear
Kie

 

Is the 'Full Steps' designation used for Proof Jefferson Nickels or only Business Strikes?

 

Business strikes only. Proofs are assumed to be well-struck coins due to the process of creating them.

 

That's what I thought but apparently not everyone got that memo.

 

It looks a bit weird to me, with the brown spots

 

Hi zekeguzz
I mean no disrespect But are you talking about the Jefferson cent I just posted

All the best
Alan

 

I am sorry about the picture I have not got the coin yet so that was the only picture I coud get.
Alan

 

Got the memo, but not every proof is a well defined strike ie this coin. The informed buyer realizes these things and picks his coins accordingly, and lets those who know no better buy the discards. I personnally would not purchase this coin without seeing it in hand as the strike looks poor to me.

Kie