I have 10 coins dating as late as 1795.. Please Help with Info

Okay I appreciate your guys's help

 

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wait a minute. the Peso and 8 realie look real enough. Just have to wiegh em out.

 

Fat chance! Fakes! If it sounds too good to be true it usually is, at least 99.9 percent of the time. Maybe next time Loui! good luck!!

 

No the pesos and 8 reales are false also. not as blatant as the US "things", but look closer and they are not close to die matches.

 

I can appreciate everyones first impulse to say they are fake, because of what they are supposed to be. Can anyone actually tell me why they are so positive they are fake? Not just becuase they are awesome coins if they are not fake. Is it simple the 'look' of them?

 

Many of them don't even attempt to mimic actual coins, others are so obviously different in details like shape of numerals in the date, that they are clearly fakes.

The Mexican "coins" and the goldoid piece are the best of the lot IMO, but are still dissimilar to the genuine articles.

Also a certain guilt by association is appropriate. If eight coins in a lot of ten are clearly fake, why would two of them be real?

 

Well Loui you said you didn't have much in them, so just a lesson learned. Give them to kids or grandkids to play with. Maybe it will spur an urge to learn about the real coins.

I got a lot on Ebay once with a bunch of these. I punched them COPY and give them away to kids all of the time for fun. The lot had some real coins in it, that is why I purchased it, these were just a freebie.

 

my guess is they're all fake?

 

In the case of the US coins the "look" is good enough. If you are familiar with the the early US coinage you know immediately that the 1795, 96 and 1800 dollars are fakes becase they don't look anything at all like the real ones. The bust is wrong , the lettering is wrong and the denitalation is wrong. The indian head 1851 dollar never existed. The Goliod dollar and pattern trade dollar both look wrong and I believe they are mismatched dies that were never actually struck as patterns. I'm a little less certain on the Mexican pieces, but since they are suspicious and everything else is fake........

 

Thank you Conder. Now that is a good explanation.

 

Okay not much lost nor do I know much about coins. Once again, Thank You guys very much. Just wondering lets say these WERE real how much would I be looking at $Price$ wise?

 

Loui, I think the 2 Mexican coins may be real in that case they afre worth around $40 for the 8 realie and $32 for the peso.

 

Well, some of them aren't similar to actual coins. But the 1795-6 dollars would be worth many, many thousands each in the conditions they seem. The goldoid piece would be also worth many thousands.

 

Well not much lost in fact a little knowledge gained. But lets say these coins WERE real how much would be talking about $PRICE$ wise?

 

Thousands. If you want exact dollar amounts, you're SOL, because that depends on a variety of factors... why does it matter anyway?

 

I was just wondering... I have no clue how to appraise coins and was just curious. Thanks a million guys.

 

When it comes to fakes like this, do they still make them out of silver?

 

Some are and some aren't. Depends on the quality of the fake.

 

I have seen these by the thousands, and own a hundred or so. They are effectively "pot metal" so fairly heavy in the hand but not as heavy as silver. I doubt these are silver since they are not very good fakes.

Btw Ripley, I have about 15 of those "Mexican" coins as well, (I mean the fake ones, I have lots of real ones also). The Chinese have been faking these much longer than US coins, since Mexican 8 pesos were the default trade coin in China. When the Mexicans stopped making the 8 reals, that is when Britain and the US started minting the trade dollars to facilitate trade with China. This is probably why the Mexican fakes are closer to the real coin, since many Chinese are familiar with this coin.