Grading this incuse quarter eagle: where do I even start?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by -jeffB, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I got this as part of a "collection", and bid assuming the worst (VF). I can't see any trace of wear on the devices, and they seem to have uninterrupted luster -- but the fields are as dull and lifeless as can be. I don't know what to make of it, and it'll be a while before I can go to a show and compare slabbed examples.

    Here are two shots with the light at a fairly high (direct) angle:

    obv-high.jpg rev-high.jpg

    And here are two lit from a very low (oblique) angle:

    obv-low.jpg rev-low.jpg

    Any opinions?
     
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  3. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    I'm gonna speculate AU53 or thereabouts. I don't know how to grade this series either.
     
  4. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

    In my opinion, I think the Indian Gold coins are one of the hardest coins to grade.
     
  5. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Its a very nice Chief. AU-50. Perhaps the high points were hand rubbed, giving it a shine, while not touching the field ???
     
  6. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    The high points on each side ARE the fields.
     
  7. BMoscato

    BMoscato ANA# R-1181086

    These are the hardest coins for me to grade; but I agree with the AU assessment.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes and no. The cheek and parts of the headdress are also high points. On the reverse parts of the near wing close to the neck are also high points.

    The easy way to understand these coins is to think of them like being a die.

    This one, is would say is XF.
     
  9. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Thanks, everybody. Just to be clear, is anyone seeing wear anywhere but the fields?
     
  11. petro89

    petro89 Member

    Nice coin! The reverse is great...the feathers are awesome...it looks like there are a few scratches but i haven't seen many raw examples of this coin that has the reverse detail yours does! I see what looks like a tiny bit of wear on the Chief's headdress on the obverse. I'm goin AU55.
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd give it an AU-53 .
    rzage
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Hmm. I wonder if it would be worthwhile to get this slabbed? (Although I do prefer "really nice for a raw coin" to "just another XF45/AU53/55/58 slab"...)
     
  14. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

    Any Gold coin is worth getting slabbed. It's a way to find out for sure what the grade is, plus, verify that it's authentic.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'll agree with the authentic part ;)
     
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