Another Find, what the heck is it?

I have been digging through coins and inserting them into my new and improved coinmanage program and ran across this one. Anyone have an idea what it is? I recall pulling it from a bargain bin at a Flea Market years ago because it was something different. I think I paid 25 cents for it way back when.

 

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I'm not a darksider, but I think it is a Russian gold five roubles.

Charlie

 

I think it's a (fake) Russian 5 gold Roubles.

Ian

 

And not even a very good one, if Krause is to be trusted.

The obverse seems to match Y#62 (4.3013g .900 gold, .1244 oz. AGW, $90 Unc in the 2001 Ed.), but the nearest match to the reverse is Y#42, a 50% heavier coin, last minted in 1894.

 

I dunno, looks identical to mine - I even compared the denticles, and they match up... I know mine is authentic, and I can't spot anything that strikes me as off putting on the devices.

http://www.rickscoinstop.com/Coin%20Images/1898_Russia_5_Rubles.jpg

 

Ahhh..I get a chance to show off my ONLY certified coin.I must admit that I also can't see any inconsistancies in that coin.If it's a fake,it's a very good one...weigh it...That will tell the tale!

 

5 Roubles

I just got a message back from another collector, he tells me that it is genuine, Mintage 52,378.

Is there any value in these things. Sure hate to find out I wasted my quarter. :goofer:

 

Wowser

Sure does shine! Nice coin.

 

They sell for around $75-$80 on Ebay.

Charlie

 

Hey Jim, just curious as to what coin program you're using now, and how good do you find it to be??

 

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I ened up going with Coinmanage. There are a few bugs in it but the owner is real receptive on fixing bugs and its working out really great for me. Albeit a TON of work to get things entered. I have put in about 10,000 so far. I really like the feature that you can put pics in of the coins. I have opted to only insert slabbed coins at this point. Overall I would give it an A-. I did check out a ton of programs before settling on this on. I think it was GD that steered me in Coinmanages direction.. ( Thanks GD )

 

10,000???

 

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Just checked to see how many I have entered. I wasnt to far off. As of right now its at 9,391.

It will easily surpass 10k. Goog thing I dont really have anything after 1980! (Excpet the proof sets and mint sets)

Havent decided what to do with the "world coins" yet. Got coffee cans of that stuff, come are in 2X2's but not many. Alot from Finland, Sweden, Germany etc..

People at the bank are wondering why I am going to the box almost every other day. :secret:

 

I seriously doubt if it's a fake. Probably edges might seem to look "flaked off" which might contribute to the non-genuity, but I believe it's a genuine. That probably might fail the weight test if the edge is flaked off as it seems here.

It's a pretty small coin so taking a decent picture of it can be a bit of trouble.

Mintage fgure again does not contribute to the final price of such 5 ruble coins. 52k as a mintage figures? But does that include what was melted down or restriked again during the Soviet era? No. Hence, it's totally meaningless when it comes to find out the extra mintage figure. And 1898 5 ruble is extremely plentiful, in fact, I remember seeing 10 such coins in my local coin store the other day. Price of such coin was around 60USD or so in circulated VF grade.

Nevertheless, nice find

 

GDJMSP - is that coin in a slab, taken at an angle? That is the only way I can interpret from that picture.

Indeed, the highlighted area at the top right seems to be a bit of a concern but St. Petersburg is known to have occasional "hiccups" or terrible "oops" at times, although such minting processes should have been deal with by the 1820s.

 

I am not too sure if that is indeed some die issue or some metal flow issue. But if I remember right, most Russian gold coins were minted in near perfection without any problems, and error gold coins are almost unheard of.

But again I can't quite tell what exactly it could be.

 

Simplest test is as GD as already mentioned. Weight it. If the coin weighs in properly then it is more likely to be genuine than not and at which point it would become worthy of surmise as to the cause of the apparent irregularities.

Ian