AT or NT

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by gbroke, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    What do you think folks? I know the picture sucks, but AT or NT anyway. Show your work.

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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Looks like NT to me, coin resided for years in a folder, hence the reverse not toned. I admit the purple is a little bright, but it can happen. Make sure you arrest this toning now, before it gets darker, as the dark spots getting very close to black damage.
     
  4. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I say AT as well. That yellow, purple, blue progression is a good sign of AT.
     
  6. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

  7. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I agree with medoraman, NT. Although I think it's NT, I don't think the toning is very attractive, but to each his own.

    Bruce
     
  8. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    i would have to lean towards AT on that one. the blue and purple reminds me of many AT coins i have seen before
     
  9. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Well fellas, the answer is a toughy. This coin was blast white 3 weeks ago. No chemicals were used to produce this toning. This would pass the sniffer test from PCGS. It is technically NT over a 3 week period. So is that actually NT? That is the big debate. At what period of time do you decide its no longer NT?

    Why did I do this? The biggest reason I did this is for me to personally try and be able to distinguish the difference between a true long-term NT with an At or quickly toned coin.

    I really like toned coins, but I simply can't ever see myself paying the huge premiums for the toners.
    If you take anything away from this, it should be: Always be wary of a 'monster' toned coin, even if it is in a slab.

    Disclaimer: No I do not tone coins and sell them. (you can check my ebay sales if you wish) I find it to be in VERY poor taste and it really upsets me when I see all of these yahoos on ebay with their monster toned coins. grrrr I am documenting the changes in color each week starting now, so we can see how this will look in the long term. If anything, I hope it will educate.
    Please don't ask me how I did it, and most importantly don't judge me for doing it.

    I will admit, I have thought about doing this to many mercury dimes, and then posting an auction on ebay every single time 'mel-ko' posts his. I would sell mine for melt. Just to hopefully take away from his business. But I am afraid even then, I would be considered a coin doctor. Anyway, carry on with your bad selves.
     
  10. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    By the way, these are the terrible, terrible coins that melko sells for between $12-$20. These, I am sure are done with chemicals.
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  11. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    i dont see anything wrong with experimenting with your own coins as long as you are not trying to make a financial gain off of it. if you are not doing it to deceive anyone than no harm no foul.
     
  12. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    AT as crap, I could spot that from a mile away.
     
  13. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Thanks chemist, I was nervous people would be screamin' at me. It is truly for educational purposes. I wouldn't share this with the community if it was for any other reason.
     
  14. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    :thumb:
     
  15. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Absolutely AT. :D
     
  16. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I would suggest that maybe it was ATed in an album hole.

    Hello Gbroke,

    By the time I saw your post, you had already informed us that it was your 3-week experiment. Slow down a little & give me time to find (and reply) your fun post next time. I often only find time to log on every day or two.

    I was going to say that the colors & pattern remind me of an AT coin (as noted by LostDutchman & just add that I would suggest that maybe it was ATed in an album hole.

    I would not have speculated wether it was toned over 30-minutes or 30-days. However, It looks like it was accelerated to me.
     
  17. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Sorry Collect. I am quick on the draw when I am at work. Anyway, I think I will have a contest soon (guess the AT coin). I think it would be interesting and hopefully help fellow collectors hone their skills in spotting AT's. I have books full of natural toned nickels. Ill throw an AT in the mix and see who can spot it.
     
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Damp sulfur containing folder? I have seen coins like this stored in damp conditions. I took a WL set out of a blue whitman one time looking pretty similar, though some of the toning was darker and they had to be dipped, that is why I would have guessed NT from an old album.
     
  19. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I really don't think you were wrong or right. I mean, it toned naturally without chemicals applied to the coin. You know? I am wondering how the colors will change throughout the summer. We will see!

    Wanted to add, it was not hit with a blowtorch or anything like that either.
     
  20. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yeah! I would have said that it looks BT to me................Baked Toning

    Chris
     
  21. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I was sober when I did it.
     
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