Real or Fake coins?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Lon Chaney, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    I have a few pics here from an ebay seller. I'm wondering if these coins look real. There's one that's a silver bullion round, the one with the merc dime design. I'm wondering if that looks like a troy oz. of .999 silver. I don't really think it does.
    My question to the seller:
    "Hi there. I see you are selling many U.S. coins. This one is a bullion round it seems, but some are not. Anyway, are these replicas? And what percentage is the silver content?"

    His response:
    "hi:
    item is silver .
    thank you "

    Also, he's from China, which is probably a red flag.
    Anyway, here are the pics:
    DSC07845.jpg DSC07846.jpg DSC07705.jpg DSC07706.jpg DSC08023.jpg

    Just wondering if anybody has any ideas.
     
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  3. Dean 295

    Dean 295 D.O.M.

    If they came out of china, they should be fakes. look at the so called mercury dime, FAKE....the dime states on the reverse 999. well....Stay away from these.
    Dean 295
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    The first 2 are definitely fake... That dime looks like one of those coasters that they sell at Cracker Barrel in the gift shop. The third one is not as obvious but knowing it's location... I'd say there is a very high probability that it's fake too.
     
  5. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    The first is marked 999 fine silver - so it could be a silver round. What size is it & weight? The 3rd coin looks real. Cannot see the second very well.
     
  6. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    This is the item description for the merc dime Bullion round. It's the size of a bullion round, and says .999 but I'm not really convinced it's really .999 fine.
    here's the description:

    "Region of origin: Chinese
    Original/Repro: Old
    Specifications: Diameter 4cm/ Thickness 0.3 cm (1cm=0.39 inch)
    Weight:28g
    Material : Silver/copper-nickel allay/zinc"

    Again, it's a bit fishy looking.
     
  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    What on Earth would induce anyone to buy this?
     
  8. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Well, a normal ounce has 28g. But again, even when I sent a message to the seller, he still dodged the silver content question:
    And what percentage is the silver content?"

    His response:
    "hi:
    item is silver .
    thank you "

    So I'm thinking it's not .999 fine, even though the round says so. It looks weird.
     
  9. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    Knowing that, I'd stay far away from ANYTHING this seller has.
    He knows this stuff is fake.
     
  10. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Absolutely true, I forget which minting company in the US made those but it was a legitamate company and those have/had real silver content .999. That said, the Chinitos have probably copied it so it truly is best to stay away from them. The bottom one looks fake but I don't know about the middle one.
     
  11. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Lon Chaney,

    #1
    Are these the kind of items you like to collect?

    #2
    IMO, the items 2 & 3 are probably not real coins and I further speculate that none of the items are made of silver.
     
  12. tequilaDave

    tequilaDave Junior Member

    Yes, an normal ounce is 28g but metals are measured in troy ounces which work out to 31.1g. Not altogether sure why the two are different, thou...
     
  13. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member

    i would never buy any coin from China.
     
  14. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I've decided to stay away from these coins, I guess. They're listed under Ancient coins, so I figured maybe they were just mis-listed and could be legit. I realize that's probably not true. I just had hoped that the bids were low because of them being listed in the wrong spot, and maybe I've stumbled upon some hidden cheaper silver. Guess probably not.
    Here's the sellers items listing, most are Chinese coins (probably fake too, who knows):
    http://shop.ebay.com/ssddppmm_333888/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25
    He also seems to sell underwear, FYI.
     
  15. Relichunter2

    Relichunter2 New Member

  16. Frankcoins.com

    Frankcoins.com Junior Member

    A one oz silver round should weigh 31.1 grams. 28 grams indicates copper pot-metal zinc junk
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The second and third pieces are definitely NOT real. I have serious doubts about the silver round.
     
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