Got my first Morgan!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Kanderus, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. Kanderus

    Kanderus Active Member

    One of the guys who helps out at the store I work at was in need of gas money. Knew I was a new coin collector and didn't have a Morgan yet. It is 1901-O. Some dings, scratches, but everything is very, very readable.

    Showed him on the computer that Kitco would pay $22.28. I had $21 on me and said I would bring him a buck tommorrow. He said "Just call it $20 and we're good." So I did. I figure it was a decent deal. I don't much about grades or how to give one out, but I would call it at least in F quality. Maybe whatever is just below F? Like I said everything is there, and readable. Full date, lettering, all 13 stars etc etc. I would snap a pic but my only camera is on my phone and it SUUUUCKS. I do have a scanner but I do not know how well it will turn out. Worth a shot I guess. Will add a scan of it later.

    Question: Coinflation says melt value is $26 in silver. How does one get that kind of money out of it? I am def NOT looking to sell or melt it, but as far as I know the local coin shop uses Kitco's refining service rates for their buying guide. Every time I call and ask it is spot on to what Kitco is offering. Like I say, I am not looking to sell it is just nice to know what I have and what it is worth.

    --Rob.
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The current bid for silver is $34.51, so the melt value would be $26.69. It's unlikely that any dealer would give you much more than about 80% which is $21.35.

    Chris
     
  4. BALD SPARTAN

    BALD SPARTAN Member

    I agree but I would buy Morgans all day long for $20.00. Congratz on a good deal and a Morgan Dollar to boot.
     
  5. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    Who on this site wouldn't spend every dime they had on $20 Morgans?
    I know I would.
     
  6. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    At $26 in silver content, I'm buying Morgans at $20/each until I am broke.
     
  7. newcoinguy

    newcoinguy Member

    So is that the going rate for what a dealer would pay (80% of spot)?
     
  8. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Yes. They make their profit by selling $3-$4 over spot ;)
     
  9. newcoinguy

    newcoinguy Member

    I dont understand why anyone would buy for 3-4 dollarsover spot if they can only sell it for 80% of spot. If you were buying as an invetment silver would have to go up 30% for you just to break even in todays market?
     
  10. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    Many dealers AND other silver buyers pay more than 80% of spot. Last coin show I went to there was a dealer BUYING at MORE than spot!
     
  11. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I think you're misunderstanding this.

    It's dealers who buy junk silver coins who pay 80% of spot and sell for $3-$4 over spot.

    You can sell to non-dealers for $3-$4 over spot to get more bang for your buck.

    I've sold off all of my junk silver, and ASE bullions, all were sold to other collectors/people looking for an investment. If I had sold the junk silver to a dealer, I would have received an offer of 80% of spot.
     
  12. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Congrads on you first Morgan. Interest start with a New Oreleans mint. Can you post a photo ??? Have fun !!!
     
  13. Kanderus

    Kanderus Active Member

  14. Kanderus

    Kanderus Active Member

    Ok, I got the pictures up. If you click on the pictures, then when they come up click the little magnifying glass with a + in it you will see a decent image. Hope you guys enjoy! Maybe can even give me a pseudo-grade?

    Sorry for the sideways reverse image. I am a noob at this. I guess I was just lucky that Lady Liberty came out right side up!
     
  15. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Difficult with the small picture. EF-45
     
  16. Kanderus

    Kanderus Active Member

    Hey Rip, I am not sure if your browser works the same as mine, but do this: When you click on either one of the images it opens a new window. Close that window, then on the window that has Cointalk on it, click the image of the coin and it will give you a small image again but this time there is a zoom option. Your cursor will be a mag glass. Click the coin with the Mag glass and it will give you nice, large, crisp photo. I don't know if I did something wrong in loading the pic, but that is how I get it to work.
     
  17. Kanderus

    Kanderus Active Member

    Ok, I learned how to fix it. Please give an estimate grade if you could =D Going to post the new images now! IMG_0001.jpg IMG_0002.jpg
     
  18. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Looks like a bit of the hair is worn,breast feathers worn, but othwise its all there. .. Nice coin. EF-45 Remember New Orleans strikes are notorious for being weak.
     
  19. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Nice coin for your first Morgan.
    The dude who sold it for gas money probably lifted it from his dad's collection, but your gain I suppose.
    I'd see what other coins he has to sell, he may need to buy a 40 oz. too.
     
  20. Kanderus

    Kanderus Active Member

    Lon, I know this guy well enough to know he didn't jack it from someone, although I wouldn't put it past him getting some booze or gambling with the money instead of getting gas. All I can do is hope he used it for gas to get to and from work like the claimed.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Haven't seen that, but at the show I went to last weekend, when spot was about 26-26.5x face, there was one dealer offering 25x face, and several more offering 24-24.5x face. When there isn't a show, with several dealers competing in the same place, you'll likely get lower offers.

    There was another dealer selling $10 face bags of dimes or quarters for $250. I bought one bag, sorted out the keepers, and took the rest to the 25x face buyer -- who offered the guy in front of me 26x face! So, I sold them $7 face of the silver I'd just bought and made a quick $7 clean profit. :) (I thought about buying the rest of the seller's silver and repeating the process, but didn't feel right about it.)
     
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