MS65FBL 1949-D Franklin.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Skyman, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Here's a coin that drove me nuts trying to get into the correct slab. There are plenty of fugly toned '49-D's out there, but for those of you that don't know about toner Franklins, finding a nicely toned 1949-D is amongst the hardest of all the coins in the series to find attractively toned, particularly with FBL. I originally bought this coin (about 20 years ago) as an NGC MS65, before either NGC or PCGS were giving Franklins the FBL designation. About 5 years ago I sent it back to NGC for designation review. Why it didn't FBL at NGC at that point in time was beyond me. I eventually sent it to PCGS. PCGS tends to be tougher on dark toned Franklins for whatever reasons, so in the first go around it probably got a 64fbl, but as I kept it in the slab they DNC'ed it the first time. Anyhow, after about a year I sent it back again and they MS65FBL'ed it. WAHOOO!!! IMO this coin is FULLY deserving of the MS65FBL grade.

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  3. WingedLiberty

    WingedLiberty Well-Known Member

    man ... that is some crazy color on that one! congrats on getting the 65 FBL!
     
  4. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    forget the color, that is a fabulous strike for a 49-D!!!

    The color is also awesome, but you don't see 49-Ds struck like that one every day!
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The reason NGC didn't assign the FBL is because of the scratch through the upper bell ines. NGC requires both sets of lines be full and no breaks - the scratch is a break. PCGS only looks at the bottom set of lines.

    Regardless of that, I'm surprised that either company slabbed the coin at all with that scratch.
     
  6. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    What scratch are you talking about?
     
  7. sgiorgis

    sgiorgis Student of Numismatics

    GORGEOUS!!!!! Ouch-eee-Wah-Wah!!!
    Steve
     
  8. BALD SPARTAN

    BALD SPARTAN Member

  9. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    49dms65-6Sm.jpg

    That one.
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    That's a heck of a Franklin, much less a 49-d! Cool coin & thanks for sharing, Sky.....Mike
     
  11. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    It's barely noticeable in hand. It's a prime example of how different images can emphasize or minimize different aspects of a coin.
     
  12. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    But it was noticeable in your photos by myself and another member.

    And I agree with GDs opinion, I'm surprised it received an FBL with that scratch on it through the lines.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It should not have been graded at all - the coin is damaged.
     
  14. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    An example of buy the coin not the slab. Lots of people see coins differently, including TPGs.
    Congrats on the upgrade Skyman.
     
  15. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    an opportunity to make money on the coin as well exists once you get that 65 FBL slab. Mecha makes a good point that the wise buy the coin not the slab, but there's no shortage of people that will buy THIS coin just because of it's slab.

    I'd sell it and go find another, but some like to actually keep their coins for a while...
     
  16. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Thank you to those of you who made nice comments about the coin!

    To the assorted guys downgrading this coin, I've been collecting Franklins for 20+ years, specializing in them over the last decade. I think I have a fairly reasonable knowledge about the series, and I've seen the coin in hand while you have not. Over the years (both before and after the upgrade) I have had multiple offers from people who specialize in Franklins to buy the coin, not because of the grade level (although there is that), but because of the combination of toning and strike for a 1949-D. Now the potential exists that you can judge a coin more accurately from an image than they and I can by holding it in hands... but I doubt it. Let's just say I'm comfortable with the coin.
     
  17. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    looks nice to me, I see the scratch or whatever it is. I don't even like franklin halves, horrible idea to replace the WL halves with that design.
     
  18. Johnny Ringo

    Johnny Ringo Member

    Sorry for the newb question but what does FBL stand for?
     
  19. WingedLiberty

    WingedLiberty Well-Known Member

    Full Bell Lines ... the lines that run along the bottom of the liberty bell
     
  20. Johnny Ringo

    Johnny Ringo Member

  21. Johnny Ringo

    Johnny Ringo Member

    I just started getting back into coins and I can't bring myself to buy franklins ever since the Philly's started beating on my Mets...hehe

    So I know even less about them then most US coins
     
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