Missing Layer 1988 Dime

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by CoinKid52, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    My sister gave me this dime in a big jar of coins laying sealed in her room.
    I found this P-Mint, 1988 Dime that appeared to be missing the layer of nickel on the obverse. It’s compared to a wheat cent, to show that it is the inner copper layer of the dime.
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    How much is it worth?
    Or is it just a plain old dime?

    Update: Better pictures, in the attached thumbnails in plastic holders.
     

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  3. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    If genuine, it should weigh around 1.8 - 1.9 grams, as opposed to the normal 2.28 grams. As to value, that would depend on condition. Uncirculated examples sell for about $60 on eBay.
     
  4. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    Thanks, mikediamond.
    The obverse is fine.
    The reverse is pretty dirty.
     
  5. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    Even from the small pictures, I am suggesting that this coin is just enctrusted with a layer of reddish material. This often happens if a coin is buried and rediscovered with a metal detector.
    I see light spots poking through the reddish areas.
    Have fFun,
    Bill
     
  6. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    Coin Verification

    But, I found the coin in a jar mixed with pennies, not buried anywhere random like a beach.

    The reddish area is only around the date.

    Here are some pictures to help varify.
    Red Spot: http://cointalk.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8673&stc=1&d=1137537660
    Comparison To Wheat Cent: http://cointalk.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8675&stc=1&d=1137537882
    Larger Photo: http://cointalk.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8674&stc=1&d=1137537815
     
  7. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    The attachments won't open, But the fact that you didnt find the coin buried doesn't mean it had never been buried before you found it. I've recirculated thousands of dimes and quarters that look just like this one.
    Bill
     
  8. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    I'm not trying to argue, but my great-grandma had those coins and she said it was pocket change, not found buried.
    And if it was burried, wouldn't both sides be affected. Only the obverse is missing the layer. The reverse is normal, but dirty.
     
  9. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    As for its origins, unless you, or someone you know pulled it from a brand new roll of dimes, the dime could have traveled the globe, flown in space, or any number of other random events, all before your great-grandmother go it in change somewhere, and you would never know it. Also, if the coin was buried next to something, say another coin, it is quite possible for only one side to be affected. Foundinrolls is not saying your coin was definitely burried, just that in his experience (which is quite considerable) it is similar to many coins he has come across that spend time in the ground.

    To help verify what you have can you post a picture of the reverse? Also, get it weighed as mikediamond suggested. Most local jewlers will be able to help you out. All of us love it when little jewels such as missing clad layers are found so don't be discouraged, just realize that it rarely happens and most often "finds" just turn out to be post mint damage or fakes.
     
  10. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    You can also ask a local pharmacist to weigh it. They have scales that are extremely accurate. As lawdogct said, I am not trying to burst any bubbles. It may be that the coin is missing a layer. I think that is highly unlikely based on my experience. As I was starting out in collecting blah, blah , blah years ago :) The one line that sticks in my head more clearly than ever was the line from a knowledgable dealer when I showed him my "unusual" coins. "Well", he said, "No World Cruise This Time" ! It was hard for me to totally accept what I was being told as I was always hoping to find a "million dollar wonder" as I like to call them.
    Since then, I've learned a lot and I now see very few errors or varieties that I can not recognize.
    When a coin looks unusual, there can be a number of reasons as to the cause. As stated before, a better picture of both sides of the coin and the weight of this coin will tell us all we need to know to have a better idea as to whether or not this coin is missing a layer.

    While it is not impossible for this coin to be missing a clad layer (before the strike), there is usually some weakness of strike, often on the word LIBERTY since the thickness of the planchet is not the same, all the detail doesn't strike up as nicely as on a full thickness planchet.

    Certain signs just cause me to lean away from the missing clad layer scenario.
    Have Fun,
    Bill

    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
  11. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    Bringing this thread
    Back from the dead
    (Hey, that rhymes)
    Still need help, if possible!
     
  12. bennypenny

    bennypenny Member

    Gotta love a poet.:rolling:
    Being a clad coin, I was wondering if a close up photo of the edge would help determine if this coin is an error or environmental?
     
  13. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    Have you weighed the coin yet?
     
  14. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    Haven't had a chance to weigh the coin (arr...science fair)...I can't get an accurate gram scale, nor do I have time. But, soon.
     
  15. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I would say this coin looks like an A Class dirty coin--it just doesn't look like a missing clad layer dime...I have a Buff Nickel that looks just like your dime...I think its been dug up too.

    Speedy
     
  16. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    Well, for sure the reverse. :smile
    I'll get it weighed soon!
     
  17. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    Last year I dug up over 1000 clad dimes. I toss them in a tumbler for a few hours, roll them and cash them in at the bank. I bet about half of them look just like your dime. I know dozens of people that do the same thing too.
     
  18. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    What's with everyone and digging up stuff?
     
  19. Pie

    Pie New Member

    Sometimes people don't know what they got so they guess.
     
  20. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    Metal detecting has been around as a hobby for decades. The hunt is for the older gold and silver coin, long lost and burried. But, as you can imagine, you end up finding far more modern coinage than other types.....and far more soda can pull tabs and gum rappers than that ;)
     
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