1880 Morgan w/ nice cartwheel effect

I just picked this up. I think I got a good deal. What do you expect to pay?

 

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Melt as it looks ruined by the oven to me.

 

I would pay melt value. Imo, that coin is artificially toned, sorry.

 

I have to agree, thats AT

 

Good I paid $30, but not that I heard that I could have paid less

 

Check out the guys credentials. He seems legit, but so far I'm returning it

http://myworld.ebay.com/jeff4scaglia/

 

Baked all the way....

 

Now I need to get baked. I should have known better. Son of a .......

 

The first red flag for me concerning this seller is that all of his coins look the same. They all look blatantly AT to me.

 

what kind of slab is that in?

 

It's a self-slab.

Chris

 

okay thanks, because there is no way that NCG would grade somthing like that

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't cartwheel and toning two completely different things?!?! I seem to notice people using them synonymously a lot, especially on eBay. To me cartwheel is when the luster makes the light dance around the coin like the spokes of a wheel. Please call me out if I'm wrong.

 

You are absolutely correct. Cartwheel is the effect a nice original silver coin with strong luster will show.

This thing, as others have said, is AT as hell. Return it ASAP and blacklist the seller.

 

Coinsnake, you are correct. The cartwheel is the effect created on a newly made coin, or one that is still in that conditon. Toning basically is a form of corrosion, but is looked at positively, because it doesn't necessarily mean "damaged"

 

It is a shame that there are so many people out there trying to alter original coins into something else... Before the baking that would have probably been a halfway decent Morgan..

 

What's crazy is look HOW MANY people love the guy and his coins!!!

 

Thats what I was thinking, but I returned it two days ago and got a full refund. Then I started a post on the ebay forum about this clown

 

Here is a good read on luster cartwheel effect

http://www.cointalk.com/t58435/

 

• Which is why this and all his other coins are in basement slabs.