Hi All, I am by no means an expert on Early Coppers. I need some help in identifying the COHEN or BREEN number for an 1804 Half Cent. I think I know what the numbers are but i am looking for some independent opinions from some of you that are more familiar with these than I am. I set up a web page for this. It is a private page that I placed on my server with no popups or ads. It just has pics of the coin. Go To: http://users.nbn.net/winchime/coins3.htm Please post as a response to this, or PM me, or email me at foundinrolls@netscape.net Thanks in advance. Bill
I'm completely unfamiliar with the issue, but that's what Heritage is for. They have a few examples of similar coins with that characteristic obverse die break. All are B-8, C-9. Only the late die states appear to have the die break, but all seem to have the break over the R.
Hi, Thanks, I had checked that out but could not figure out anything conclusive. That's why I am trying to get someone to clarify what this one is. C-9 has the break over the R on the reverse but I am not sure at what point it may have had the die break on the obverse, (if it did) . It might have been a later state die. Thanks Again, Bill
That looks to me like a 1804 Variety 8 "Widest Date, break through R" state V, from the Breen book (p.246). In the Manley Book it is called a Cohen-9 State 4 (p.149). The 15 degree rotation is noted in the Manley book. Does your coin have a die break coming out of the cud on the obverse and going through IBER? If so, it may be a state 5 coin. Hope this helps...Mike
Hi Mike, Thank You, that confirms what I got from another source. After I posted here, I thought to email Ron Manley and he wrote back with exactly the same diagnosis that you just gave. Thank You!! Bill
Glad to hear Ron agrees with little old me. That just means I'm reading his book correctly. p.s. which state is it, 4 or 5?
Thanks for the learning experience, guys. It's incredibly beneficial to bring an attribution process out into the open like this.
