Keep it civil? I dont really see how its out of hand. I think everyone has the right to protect whats theirs.......lets just say if it wasnt coins you were protecting but it was a family member, would it change whats civil and whats not? And I also own guns and have a dog but dont need a safe cause I have a WW2 bunker in my back yard were I store all my stuff
I did not say it was out of hand yet, just that some comments between posters was getting close IMO, and that counts, sorry. Discussion on protecting your family and other than numismatic material can be found on other forums and is not necessary here. The thread will be closed if discussions of such continue. Thanks. Jim
The pure and simple mistake this guy made was breaking the number one rule: opening his mouth and letting others know about his silver hoard.
My hope is to get one of the military working dogs that washes out of Lackland AFB. Even though they wash out, they're still obedient and awesome dogs. I got bit in the @$$ by one in an exercise at McGuire AFB this summer. It hurt...
this is messed up thats why i keep a mb 12 g waiting one way in one way out... best way to get one..http://www.cointalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111139&d=1298300555
True, but the problem is that he bought that much silver. Many people knew he had it in his possession the instant he got it. That news is likely to spread no matter how secretive he is. I think the biggest problem was keeping everything in one place ? I mean why not spread it around, keeping a much smaller amount in his own safe.
Hi everybody, No matter how you put, see, explain, assume, accuse, twist and turn, ponder the story.It remains that the guy was violated. He was in his own right in his own home, in his own "santuary" and no one had a right to violate that. Someone had the audacity to overstep their boundaries by force and control. It does not help that we assume the same roll as the violator with harsh words and insentive language. Im sure this man is just knocking himself crazy over the head with having said anything to anyone. He will probably be doing this all the way to his grave (God help him). We are nothing smarter or greater within and of ourselves by continuing to knock the guy with words that cause further violation to his person and property. It's just not cool that way. I would rather you knock me over my "newbie(ness)" and inability to yet express myself in the cointalk world about my findings than further violate an already hurting individual. That said, have a great day everyone. Hope all of you remain safe and that your homes and possessions remains safe too.
All true, but his example should sound a warning to others about the realities of the world. Silver is great, but silence is golden.
Very true. I mean one of the clerks could have casually mentioned that the guy over there just got $750,000 worth of silver. I mean, suppose he never said a word, there are still a bunch of people know he's got the stuff. Even here in Vegas, you advertise the fact that you have a large amount of cash when you ask for security to walk you out. I even saw a guy jump up and cheer when he won $50,000 on a Keno card. Then everyone in the place knew he had money. Keeping everything in one spot was the mistake. IMHO
A well trained dog will not respond at all to the steak, at least not until they bite someone's axx off!
Well said but unless I missed something the victim is not personally on this forum and this forum is set up to learn and teach so the more we can learn from the victim's loss the better. I think we all feel badly for the dude and we will keep our eyes open for the goods but this is a forum and once a thread is started, all hell can break loose as it has.
I never keep coins or PMs in my house...not the good ones, anyway. Take a blog like this one...I'll bet there are a ton of lurkers looking for identity clues. They may ever register and befriend some members for additional information. This is a great place to share information, but be careful not to set yourself up for a home invasion. EDIT: Btw, the article placed a value on the bullion of $750,000, but estimates the guy only paid $415,000 for it when he bought it the year before. Still, quite a bit of money!
Yes, the blog revealed more than it should have possibly. But there ain't much here to get. The dogs the most valuable things I own, and I can't keep them in a vault box at the bank.
Sounds like an inside job... and I'm curious if the "victim" is being investigated for possible insurance fraud. Timing the market to not only buy silver at a low but to also turn around and lose/sell it at a high both sound suspicious to me, as does the story of carrying that much silver out in a Camry. Just carrying and loading that many bars or boxes of silver rounds would take many, many trips. I drive a Camry, and it would be hard pressed to carry 2 large guys and 1,500 lbs of silver.
The article quotes the silver owner as saying that a bank turned him away. Why would they do that? Did he really mean that he felt the price of renting a 3x3 safety deposit box (or a combination of various, smaller boxes) was just too expensive?
+1 There's a 'spy gear supply shop' not far from me - I may go check and see if they have something like that. Would a cell phone have the same effect? Simply keep a pay-as-you-go model charged and in the safe (or inside one of the boxes), and it should be trackable, right?