1979 mint set

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  1. uppermi

    uppermi New Member

    I have a 1979 Philadelphia mint souvenir set, but the mint token in the set is dated August 14 1969. Any coments? Thank You.
     

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  3. run_run_run

    run_run_run New Member

    looks nice, why no SBA?
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not a genuine mint set, it's a counterfeit. And yes I am sure.
     
  5. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    It is interesting though that anyone would be dumb enough to put that together with a wrong date. I'm confused as to what someone would be trying to accomplish by making a false set of something that is not worth much regarless of if original or not. Makes for a good strange item. I suggest you start a collection of weird stuff.
     
  6. pdlinch

    pdlinch Junior Member

    Hello,
    The set looks like an uncirculated souvenir set that the mints sell in their gift shops. I had purchased one in the early 70's at Denver. The Red Book lists them for 1982 and 1983. They include the mint medal. The 1969 date is on the medals for Philadelphia. I have not seen a list of what other years were made up.

    Paul
     
  7. uppermi

    uppermi New Member

    The coin set was won at a metal detecting hunt over 15 years ago. cant see why some one would spend the time and money to copy something that was only worth about $4.00 . The outside edge seal has " united states mint, and philadelphia mint souvenir set" imprent right in the seal.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The problem I have with the set isn't the mint medal or the date on it - it's the package. Take a close look at the way the edge of the cellophane is sealed. Now compare it to this -

    '79 Souvenir Dollar set

    See the difference ? It's the pattern in the cellophane, the machine used to seal these sets creates a distinctive pattern.

    The set I pictured was just for the dollar sets, couldn't find one readily available for the whole set. But even the regular mint sets had the same design in the cellophane. And neither of them had any imprinting. They used colors to identify which mint it came from - red & blue. With the souvenir sets they used the envelopes.
     
  9. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Doug,I have to respectfully disagree.The mint souvenir sets have a different pattern on the seals than the regular mint sets.My Denver set is identical to uppermi's.The pattern on these is a 45 degree crosshatch while the regular mint sets use a 90 degree "checker " pattern as seen in your link.SBA's were not included in these sets.The August 14th ,1969 date was the opening day of the new mint and is on all medals,all years.Here is a pic of a Philly set and my Denver set.
     

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  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Fair enough Mik - I stand corrected. All I had to go by was memory and pics of the souvenir SBA sets.

    Main reason for my posting what I did is there are counterfeit mint sets out there. It's quite easy to do and it allows those who make them to double their money or better.
     
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  12. tanner520

    tanner520 Coin Lover

    Hi all,
    I was away for a while or else I would have answered this thread earlier.

    What you have, uppermi, is a US Mint Souvenir Set, just as pdlinch and Mikjo0 mentioned earlier. I just happen to be a Souvenir Set collector and have quite a bit of trivia about these little jewels. Each of these sets came with a cent, nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar and a bronze Mint medallion from the corresponding Mint.

    These Souvenir Sets mainly were made at the Denver and Philadelphia Mints and mainly sold at their gift shops at those sites. The Mint medallion simply has a date designating when the corresponding Mint was established. It's not a mintage date.

    The Denver Mint made these sets from 1972 to 1998 and came in light blue to dark blue envelopes. The words "Denver Mint Souvenir Set" were printed in the lower right corner of the envelope in a thin Gothic font in the years 1972 to 1975 and later went to a cursive bold font from 1976 to 1998.

    The Phialdelphia Mint made these sets from 1973 to 1998 and came in light green envelopes. The words "Philadelphia Mint Souvenir Set" were printed in the lower right corner of the envelope in a normal Arial font for every year.

    There were three Susan B. Anthony Dollar Souvenir Sets created from 1979 to 1981, which had one of each of the Denver, Philadelphia and San Francisco minted dollars for each of those years. The 1979 set came in a yellow envelope, the 1980 set came in a light blue envelope and the 1981 set came in a light green envelope.

    Also during the years of 1979 to 1981, the San Francisco Mint made Proof Souvenir Sets with a Proof cent, nickel, dime, quarter and half dollar along with a small Proof San Francisco bronze Mint medallion. They came in pink envelopes with the words "San Francisco Souvenir Proof Set" in the upper left corner. One other popular Souvenir Set from San Francisco is the 1976 ANA Convention Set which contained a bicentennial quarter and half dollar as well as a San Francisco large bronze Mint medallion, much different than the ones mentioned earlier. The set was in a blue envelope with the words "Bureau of the Mint Mary Brooks, Director" in the lower right corner.

    I've been unable to find any data on the mintage of any of these sets simply because this data was not kept. These sets weren't really considered formal enough of a release to keep track of. However, I think they're kinda neat and started collecting them after doing what most people do when they try to get one of every Mint Uncirculated Set. Since there were no Mint Sets made in 1982 and 1983, people usually buy one of these as a "place filler" for those years. Most people don't even know there are Souvenir Sets for these other years.

    The 1976 sets had the bicentennial coins and a different Mint medallion than the other years but my favorite sets are the 1975 sets from Denver and Philadelphia. Since there were no 1974 quarters and half dollars made in 1975, the Mint just kept using 1974 coins as replacements in these sets. So that year had a 1975 cent, nickel and dime and a 1974 quarter and half dollar - and, of course, the Mint medallion.

    Anyway, hope this helps some and gives more information than you wanted to know about these sets.
     
  13. uppermi

    uppermi New Member

    Thanks for all the information. Art.H
     
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