What will PCGS say? Coin 3 of 10 - 1839 large cent

Here's coin #3 from the submission.

This coin was sent in raw to PCGS. What will PCGS grade the coin (or if they don't grade it, what reason will they give)?



Similar to the last sets of photos, these shots were taken to accentuate the color and not the luster, so as a result the coin's luster looks a bit flatter than it does in real life.

I bought this coin from Tom Reynolds, a well known EAC dealer, at FUN in 2007. He EAC graded the coin 50+/50, and it came with an enclosed PCGS label (I won't reveal the grade). I graded it $675 and purchased it for that price.

What will PCGS say?

 

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depends on what side of bed they wake up on. :devil:


65 - 66 ????

 

My guess though don't do a lot of early coppers is
Genuine/ questionable color

 

I'll guess AU-58.

 

I'll go with AU58 only because there appears to be a little discoloration on the highest parts of the coin and nothing else distracting from a choice coins. I net grade it MS 63 BN.

 

I have to go AU58. The strike is very good but not exceptional, therefore the wear is minimal.

Nice coin!

 

AU 53 again tho i have a feeling pcgs is going to continue its chain of gradeflation.

 

I think they'll call it AU55. Clearly it has rub, but it has a good strike, an early die state, and a hard planchet. Lovely coin IMO.

I see no reason the tiny rim nicks above stars 5 and 10 should cause a problem, but the red patch in the denticles above star 9 might. Good luck !

 

I see the rub, but that is not the question. I have coins with "obvious" rubs graded as MS and a couple I find no rub, but are "AU". I will guess they called this one 58, but I would not be surprised if they gave it an MS.

 

I was wondering about that color, too, but don't have enough experience with re-colored coins to really know.

 

Bookmarking this so that I can check back when you post the two grades side-by-side...

 

I will say AU55, but that might be me short changing the coin off the big pictures. Now what are the spots under E in states and inside E in one? Another nice coin.

 

I've also been wondering about the large patch of color on Liberty's hair at the very back of her neck, kind of a rust hue. Also under the 5th star. They're a similar but not exact tone to the dentils at 2:00, at least in the photo.

There looks to be a tiny bit of this color on top of the spots that mark_h just mentioned, or am I imagining things?

 

I'm guessing 58

 

yeah they will inflate that to at least a 58

 

They are small spots/areas of light corrosion. Quite common on large cents. Look back on the 1818 (coin #1) and you'll see the same thing. Not really problematic as they haven't really affected the surfaces (i.e. no granularity), and the coin would be more desirable if they weren't there -- but most copper collectors I know don't worry about them much on circulated coins. To be frank, I'd be more worried about the coin if they weren't there.

 

Got it. The way you have this challenge set up is causing us (at least me) to question all aspects of the coin—which is a good thing! I can't imagine you buying a copper without original surfaces and I wouldn't have questioned this coin's originality otherwise, but your "PCGS challenge" has me doing just that. Good educational exercise.

 

Just wait.

 

Perfect milk chocolate color and gorgeous throughout!