Help with some better Canadian large cents

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by LostDutchman, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Hey gang!

    I am pretty proficient when it comes to common Canadian stuff. When it comes to better Canadian stuff I like to check out my attributions and grading especially when they can be high dollar stuff. I had 2 cents I wanted to check my attribution on and get an idea of grade from someone who grades these more then I do so here goes. Thanks in advance!

    1858 Canadian Large Cent.

    1858canada1.jpg 1858canada2.jpg

    I would call this a really nice VF. Is this a correct grade? Also I only have the Krause guide for prices it shows a VF at $150. Anyone have a more realistic price for this coin (and the next one) or are these numbers about right?

    1891 Small Date Large Letters.

    1891canada1.jpg 1891canada2.jpg

    I am calling this coin a Conservative XF I can however see it easily being called an AU50.

    The Krause prices this coin at $300 in XF40 and $1,000 in MS60. Once again anyone have any actual price guidance?
     
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  3. Mark14

    Mark14 Star Wide Receiver

    im sure that ikandiggit will be able to help you with this one, but i think your grades are accurate with my limited knowledge
     
  4. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    That 1858 at VF is a very conservative grade IMHO . I have to learn to stop doing this. I only looked at your smaller image before I made this statement. After looking at the larger image, I'd say your right on with that grade. Sorry. I also concur with your grade for the 1891 , which is a nice looker . Both the top two TPG's typically over-grade Canadian coinage, so i'm curious what they may call these. I'm sitting on two pieces, one being a 1900 Five Cents , Round " O " variety and an 1888 RPM Newfoundland 10 cent , which the total mintage was a mere 30,000 pieces. One of these days, I'll get around to having NGC take a peek.
     
  5. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......

    if i was grading these coins using the european system i would certainly grade the at extra fine as the relief detail is excellent on them both, the hair on victoria is superb and the lettering is almost as struck.
     
  6. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I agree with your grades, but even the top one might get XF, depending upon the TPG that you choose and the bottom one might get an AU. Both are very nice coins. However, the 1891 is an Obverse 3 Small date, Small leaves (SD/SL) ... NOT a Small Date Large Letters. The "L" to describe the 1891 varieties stands for "leaves" , not "letters". The easiest way to tell the two apart is to look and see if the leaves touch the denticles ... the easiest place to see (that I look at) is from 6:00 to 9:00. Yours is definitely Small Leaves.
     
  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Well that makes sense. That is why I check this stuff out because I just assumed it was small letters.

    Any price guidance?
     
  8. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    Latest "Trends" from Canadian Coin News: 1858 VF-20 = $135, XF-40 = $225 1891 Obv 3 SD/SL XF-40 = $200, AU-50 = $300
     
  9. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Bill,

    Thanks a ton!
     
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