I have decided to submit to the Security Engravers Group!

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by Zeplyn, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Don't be nervous. Take it at your own pace. Find your groove and post "SEG" in the thread title when you make a presentation. No pressure to meet a deadline. You call the shots and deliver when you can!

    If a presentation on 1928 and 1934 notes is your first priority, then please go for it.
     
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  3. Zeplyn

    Zeplyn Dry Ink Seldom Smears

    Ok that sounds fair enough. I will post my work before Feb 14, 2011 [or sooner].
    I guess my official project Title will be [Banknote Designs of 1928 to 1934 and things I learned along the way]

    I have never been one to put things off so I feel the sooner the better to break the ice.
     
  4. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  5. clayirving

    clayirving Supporter**

    I believe you are speaking of the light green seal (LGS) printed on some of the Series 1928 and 1934 notes. The Treasury Seal and serial numbers were printed with a light vivid yellow-green ink (some call it an apple green).

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    During the same period, some notes were also printed with a dark green seal (DGS).

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    I like the appearance of the light green seal notes very much. Here are some note for you to see.
     
  6. Zeplyn

    Zeplyn Dry Ink Seldom Smears

    Thanks Clayirving. Yes these are the ones that made me look into banknotes.
    Thanks. I have a lot of work ahead of me.
     
  7. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    Welcome to the fold! ;)
     
  8. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Welcome to SEG! Good luck with your presentation!
     
  9. Zeplyn

    Zeplyn Dry Ink Seldom Smears

    Well it is getting very interesting at this point. I have spent a considerable amount of time reading references, internet searches and even doing some digging around at Gov websites.
    I have immersed myself into a new world of Banknotes and have discoverd that an enormus amount of information has been compiled on them. The most interesting is the Large Size Banknotes that tell a story of the financial history of this Country and the people behind the sceens that implemented the laws, regulations and established the internal departments in which production both internal and external played a true role in development of some remarkable feats of technology in times where technology was just being discovered. The Small Size Banknote that interest me now seem boring in comparison, none the less still exciting.
    I wanted to come on and post a comment about what I am finding and a reference that I can use as an analogy is simply put, a light switch has been turned on.

    I am stricken with sticker shock when investigating the pricing for these Large Banknotes. On the other hand while looking into the Small Size banknotes that have captured my interest they are not chump change either. More so, putting 2 and 2 together, some of your collections have a new found understanding to me at this point in time. The person here called MPCUSA, well I have read almost all of his post's and I can only barely comprehend the magnitude and price potential of what this man has done. Many of you have my respect, even if you are not aware of it. I do not know if I could ever invest sum's of money that it would take to hold a nice collection of banknotes. I will continue my path and post my project as planned, but I just had to make some comments on what I am finding here.
     
  10. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    Zeplyn, this is a long and windy road. You'll write something up on small size notes, and six months from now you'll be in a bit of a different place and maybe you'll write up something on Chinese notes of the early 20th century. There is no need to commit now to a specific scope to your collection, or that your SEG articles down the road won't take a left turn from what your early thoughts were.

    Also know that many of us will not be collectors of whatever you chose to write up in your SEG presentations, and even if the topic of small-size notes may seem a bit "boring by comparison", there are those of us who will know nothing about them, even the boring parts!

    Dave
     
  11. Zeplyn

    Zeplyn Dry Ink Seldom Smears

    DaveM
    I understand what you are saying. I suppose that I am just overwhelmed. As I only mentioned MPCUSA in my last post, there are many of you. Your website is lavishly great. I do not know enough about your collection style or banknote history to put it into perspective yet. I feel like a tiny fish in a very large lake. Thank you for your positive spin.
     
  12. Zeplyn

    Zeplyn Dry Ink Seldom Smears

    Can anyone say brick wall?
    I have been putting together the information from searches that I have done. I can only hope that you banknote folks will take it easy on me with this.
    What I am finding out is really just the normal information.When going for more, I will mention what more is when I do the report, it seems as if a brick wall is placed in front of me.
    Running a little apprehensive at this point along the route.
     
  13. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    The information you gather may seem "normal", but there are times that one handles a banknote from their own country for there entire lives and never looks at it. I mean, really looks at it. Then he reads a presentation that points out all the beauty or details he was never aware of and that turns his whole perspective and attitude towards those notes around.

    Happened to me.:D

    A lot of us are still novices re: paper money and some of the members are from other countries, and some members specialize in particular notes or series, so I'm sure whatever you present will be of interest to many.
     
  14. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I love your post because it really excites my anticipation for your report...

    I guarantee you there is a very high probability that you already know more than most numismatists (collectors) who only focus on coins and avoid bank notes their entire collecting lives. The information you are gathering may seem dry and data centric but it's far from trivial. As you define your collecting interests it will serve you well and your ability to recite such information nimbly will impress others and command you a certain reputation or respect when you share the acquired information with others.
     
  15. Zeplyn

    Zeplyn Dry Ink Seldom Smears

    Thank you for your votes of confidence. I will do the best I can with what I have found out.
     
  16. clayirving

    clayirving Supporter**

    I ran across this short video about Thomas Hipschen.

    [video]http://bcove.me/nfesbudr[/video]
     
  17. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Very nice video Clay, thanks for posting that for us.

    I posted this article about Hipschen sometime back, here it is in relation to this video for those interested in more about him:

    His art is right on the money: Bellevue, Iowa, native Thomas Hipschen worked for 38 years as a U.S. banknote picture engraver. from thonline.com [7/17/2010]
     
  18. clayirving

    clayirving Supporter**

    Wow! A 10-year apprenticeship at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing.
     
  19. krispy

    krispy krispy

    There's a WORD document I uploaded in this thread: Engraving Schools, which is a 2006 BEP position listing. Check out the various duties and requirements detailed for the pretty well paid position. At the time it was listed they had two openings. I don't see these positions listed too frequently.

     
  20. connor1

    connor1 Collector

  21. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Hi Zeplyn,

    A couple books you might want to try to get your hands on:

    History Bureau of Engraving and Printing 100 Years (The first edition is the one you really want)
    Whitman Encyclopedia of US Paper Money

    For what you are working on I think these two books would help!

    Welcome and good luck.

    Best Regards ~ Darryl
     
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