What will PCGS say? Coin 2 of 10 - 1826 large cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Leadfoot, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Here's the second installment of ten. The rules remain unchanged.

    Please guess what PCGS will grade this coin (or if they won't grade it, why):

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    Background: I purchased the coin from Shawn Yancey in mid 2009. I don't remember how much I paid (I will find the receipt and post it later), and somehow I didn't enter it in my spreadsheet. :eek:
     
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  3. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Very nice!...I will get it a shot..AU50 trace of wear on the hair. Nice pickup.
     
  4. Mark14

    Mark14 Star Wide Receiver

    i like the color, AU-54
     
  5. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    if the other was XF this is G !! :)


    now this one looks XF


    Whats with the obverse rim at 11-12?
     
  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Rim crumbling, as struck.
     
  7. USMoneylover

    USMoneylover Active Member

    I'll go XF47.5 :D
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You sure do have some clean looking coins compared to everything else I am seeing. I will say 53. Maybe it has more wear, but it is just too clean.
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    And again, guys, the photos don't do a good job of showing luster. Just like the last set of photos. You can see what the entire coin looks like, luster wise, if you focus on the 3 o'clock and 9'oclock areas of the photos (that's where the luster is shown fairly well).
     
  10. I won't make the same mistake this time around. I will say that PCGS will go XF45. TC
     
  11. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

  12. First off, I am not going to guess. I know absolutely nothing about large cents. But that brings me to a question. What was the purpose of the raised bump between the "ONE CENT" I noticed it on both of your coins.

    And very nice coppers by the way.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    That is very nice of you to say, and I think so too. However, there are some not-so-appealing coins coming along in the group. There were a few coins I put in this submission that were specifically submitted to "test the boundaries" of what PCGS will and will not slab. I'll save the conclusions for later in the series, but you've been warned. ;)
     
  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    They are known as compass marks and were used to position UNITED STATES OF AMERICA around the edge. Remember, at this time the letter punches were all done by hand.
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looks like a 55 to me.
     
  16. I did not know that, thanks for the clarification.
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    My pleasure. Now do me a favor and look at this:

    Let's compare just the obverse. The first coin was from the last thread and we all learned that PCGS graded it 55. So if the first coin is 55, what is the second coin?

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    Do you think it is higher or lower graded? One grade, two grades, three grades? Take a guess.

    HINT: Pay attention to relative amounts of wear and luster.
     
  18. Well to me, and this is in no way credible, lol, the '26 would be less in my book because of the wear on the hair above the ear and the neck line. That is if it actually IS wear and not a weak strike. I do not know these enough to make that guess. But I do like the color of the '26 more. I will say the '26 got a 58.
     
  19. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    You give yourself too little credit. ;)

    Wear shows as slight discoloration on the high points. In this case that means the rim & stars, cheek, neckline, hair along brow, top edge of coronet, and three areas in the hair on the back of the head.

    Now compare the reverses:

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    And ask yourself is there more or less WEAR between the 1818 in 55 or the 1826?
    Ask yourself is there more or less LUSTER between the 1818 if 55 and the 1826?

    Because, IMO, it is the LUSTER and WEAR that is the real difference between the grades on these coins...if there is any.
     
  20. Wear looks worse to me on the '26 on the obverse and less on the reverse. The luster on the '26 is more eye appealing. I'll stick with my earlier post, 58 on the '26.
     
  21. robec

    robec Junior Member

    I really like the 26 over the 18. I wouldn't be surprise at MS60.
     
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