Another ebay scam-artist-- please advise!

Hello, I am ashamed to acknoweldge that I recently got fooled into buying a group of slabbed coins advertised as an unsearched (or, more exactly, not fully searched) group of coins that came from somebody who collected coins for 85 (i kid you not) years. Sort of like liquidation of the collection. There were almost 10 pictures of the same selected group of coins that looked fairly decent for a lot.
What I got obviously were cheap junk coins that sell for $5 a pound and a few old culls.
All coins that had any kind of value ( I mean like over 50 cents) were on the original picture.
There is more:
1) 239 out of 240 coins are slabbed into brand new , spotless cardboard mylars, still shining and smelling. There is no way whatsoever they came from an old collection.
2) All notes on all slabs are made by the same hand, with the same pen, with the same ink.
3) they all slabbed in the exactly same manner;
4)they were put in the old boxes very accurately, yet with no order whatsoever.
5) who in his own mind slabs coins that worth 5-6 cents each?
6) he sells lots like these fairly regularly (this grandma that must be pushing 100 already calls him out of the blue every couple of months with new boxes, right)


The thing that confused me most and made me buy it, is that he has an impeccable 1000+ feedback , no negatives and only a few neutrals ( that say that the coins were junk, but they still are neutrals)

So , what do I do here? Please help, it was supposed to be my birthday present.
I will post the link if moderators allow it.


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His grandma is 100+ years old, and he's beeen collecting for 85 years? geeezz..talk about a nice gene pool.
Too bad he's got no morals what so ever...ok..lets see the ebay link.
I think we all ( me included) have been stung by underhanded crooks like that before.
Does he have a return policy?

 

No he doesnt! surprise , surprise!
I emailed him a fairly civil message and he pointed out that he doesnt accept returns and "his feedback speaks for itself"

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If he described the coins falsely and you paid with paypal you can open a dispute , same with ebay
open a dispute with ebay telling them what you told us . Just don't wait too long , the sooner you file a dispute the better .
rzage

 

E-mail him and tell him how you feel about the coins you bought and leave feed back on how he handles it. If he dosent take care of it I would report him to ebay and tell them he is giving false info. in his ad's. And happy b-day

 

File a 'S.N.A.D.' report with PayPal

 

How much did you pay for this 240-coin set, if you don't mind me asking? I mean, are we talking like $20, or $2000? That would influence my advice, because if it's a lower number, I'd just let it go and learn from my mistake and leave neutral feedback that indicates what happened. If it's a higher number, I'd contact the seller and see what you guys can work out. Maybe a return, or a partial refund?

EDIT: ok, I saw the listing, wow - $140?? I'd be doing anything I could to get that money back. At this point, with the seller not budging, I'd go straight for an eBay dispute. And make sure it's detailed. If the seller doesn't do anything or refund you anything, escalate it to a claim, PayPal dispute, whatever you need to do. You just got robbed, straight up robbed. And I feel bad for you, I wish you all the best.

 

With a name like 'notes and coins', you gotta figure he's not as clueless as he makes it sound in the auction.
Obviously a dealer, so he's not going to get something without searching it.

 

The collector was "...in two world wars..."
HOWEVER...
He started collecting "when it was 10...in...1925"

Did we have a 3rd world war and no one told me???
Or did he serve when he was 2 years old???


Maybe WWIII was in 1988, the year of one of the coins he collected while serving overseas.
I bet he made a good soldier at 73 years old!

 

Wow, people like this should be beaten on a regular basis. It is quite a racket he is running there.

We have all made mistakes, try not to beat yourself up to bad.

 

$132.51+$9 I also had another coin from him, he charged me $3 extra to put it in the same box.

 

Why are you still here?
You have a report to file!

 

yeah I didnt even noticed that one. I knew of course that there is no way the coins arent searched, but I did expect to find something similar to the pictured group of coins ( which is nothing special, btw). I mean, with a 100% feedback of over 1000??

 

when I file what should I ask for ? 100% refund? Then I lose shipping charges and whatver costs me to send this junk back? They have option "other"-- should I use that?

 

One more piece of advice:

In his feedback, I see a few people who fell into the same scam. One paid $168, another $77, $100.. the list goes on. Their user names are visible, and I think you should send them messages through ebay asking them if they were duped, too, or if they actually got good coins, or how they feel about their purchase. You can tell them you just bought the same item with the same bull**** story behind it, and how you feel you were duped. See what they say... because they all left positive feedbacks.

 

I think you should ask for whatever solution would make you happy. Personally, I wouldn't mind spending another $5-8 on shipping this junk back if it guaranteed I would recoup my $130.

 

If he doesn't want to work with you I don't think there is much you can do. His listing is complete bs but he spends most of his time telling a tall tale and not describing the lot. I would still file a dispute without high expactations as he didn't speak of value that I saw.

Make sure you give him a negative so others are less apt to fall for his scam.

 

Yeah, definately leave a neg!

 

You can't ever just look at the reviews that are on ebay, you also need to check for things that have been removed/older using a site such as toolhaus.org
If you check his user name you can find at least one person who previously complained about the same thing the OP is posting.

Sorry you had a bad experiece.

 

i read through his feedback and i do suspect some shill-bidding as well.
I filed the claim with ebay.