AARRRGGGGG!! Dang it!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by poppa501, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. poppa501

    poppa501 older'n dirt

    I've been working on my Lincoln Cent collection since I was 8 years old. Just turned 62. Do the math. I thought I knew a little about coins, especially Lincolns, but.... and I'm almost ashamed to tell this! While updating a coin in my Lincoln album, I noticed I had the Cherrypickers' Guide out and thought "I'll check for errors" Got out my trusty loupe and began to search. Nope...nope...nope...etc. Got to my nice 1911 S and noticed a series of scratches around the date. Hmm? Upon closer inspection, I believe its a DANG FAKE! I think someone removed part of the 4 on a 1941 S. They also attempted to remove the VDB from the shoulder. Now that I look at it, it seems as plain as day. Wonder how long I've had this POS? Why have I never noticed it before? Oh well--Here's the pics.

    Anyone want to buy a nice 1911 S Lincoln cent...cheap?:rolleyes: 1911 S Lincoln Fake detail 1.jpg 1911 S Lincoln Fake.jpg 1911 S Lincoln Fake detail2.jpg
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's a valuable lesson you learned. If you know what to look for you can tell at a glance the coin is an altered 1941-S. For one thing, the spacing between the 9 and the second 1 is too large. (It was the correct spacing for a 4 but not for a skinny 1.
    Also, Lincoln Cents did not have VDB on the obverse until 1918 so if the bust has VDB (or if there is evidence the VDB was removed from the bust) the coin must have been struck in 1918 or later.
     
  4. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    Dont be embarrassed....thanks for sharing you might have just saved someones skin!
     
  5. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    ouch...well we all have these SOL moments in this type of collecting
     
  6. johnnyflesh

    johnnyflesh New Member

    That stinks! Can't hold yourself accountable for what you collected as a kid though. Bet you didn't have a loop as a kid so it's easy to see how it could happen. My condolences.
     
  7. prolawn_care

    prolawn_care New Member

    That sucks! A fair amount of money to lose on a lincoln... But thats how we learn!
     
  8. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    Don't be ashamed, you're better to post it and get it off your chest. We've all been there in one way or another! Misery loves company!
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Happens to all of us. I have had worse.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Takes a brave guy to post and admit to a mistake in past times. I commend you for posting this as an example of what to look for when purchasing such a coin. Sharing and education is what this forum is all about......
     
  11. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    +1 Ill say this, everything I know about coins has pretty much been from this site! If someone takes the time (like I did this summer ) to absorb the info you can blow your local dealer out of the world. I love how I can go in the shops 45+ minutes away and they will try to school me. I stay modest but inside Im laughing. I am most definitely glad I found this site!
     
  12. poppa501

    poppa501 older'n dirt

    In retrospect it is funny. I guess one of the reasons I never checked for that type of thing in the past is that I just wouldn't think anyone would go to the trouble to fake an 11 S. 14 D,09 S VDB, 22 plain, sure. But an 11S? Betcha the next one I get not gonna slip by me so easily! Thanks guys.
     
  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Boy what a kick in the pants!!
     
  14. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yep it happens to the best of us! I appreciate that you shared the story, that's the way we learn. :thumb:
     
  15. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Concur with other posts. Altough you may have made a mistake, you've helped others to avoid that same mistake by sharing your experience. Thanks for the post!
     
  16. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Yes that stinks, but look on the bright side, you've opened alot of eyes...
     
  17. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    This thread opened my eyes quite a bit! Now I'm gonna go thru my lincolns. Thanks for sharing the story, sorry that it happened to you or anyone else for that matter.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The mintmark style is also wrong for the 1911-S. The 11-S has the same mintmark style as seen on the 1909-S, compact with parallel sides and the serifs are straight up and down and a small chip in the upper loop. This one has the tall open loop style seen in the 1940's.
     
  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    You can still easily see the outline of the 4 there?
     
  20. poppa501

    poppa501 older'n dirt

    Yep--but believe me--in hand without a loupe its not noticeable at all.
     
  21. coop

    coop Senior Member

    It could have been worse:
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    The extra space is the key between the digits.
     
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