Defacing US coinage

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by gbroke, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I understand that melting of coinage is technically not illegal, but I was under the impression the defacing them was definitely a no no. If that is true, then wouldn't hobo nickels be considered defaced coinage?

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  3. Bluetip84

    Bluetip84 Likes Toned Coins

    Not sure if its illegal or not but that coin is pretty neat.
     
  4. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    ???

    It's effin awesome!
     
  5. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Is it $550 awesome?
     
  6. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    The Law is:


    The key word is fraudulently.
     
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  7. Bluetip84

    Bluetip84 Likes Toned Coins

    Yea i think it comes down to its illegal when you try and pass off lets say a nickel for being worth 50 cents.
     
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  8. Bluetip84

    Bluetip84 Likes Toned Coins

    550! wow after a quick search allot of the nice Hobo nickels are big money. I guess there are allot of collectors for them that drive a high price??
     
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  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Yes, defacing US coinage is illegal - IF IT IS DONE WITH THE INTENT TO DECEIVE. Making a hobo nickel is completely legal. Scratching a coin is legal. Trying to make a cent fit into a dime slot is illegal
     
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  10. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!
     
  11. camlov2

    camlov2 Member

    As long as they are still selling it as a nickel they should be fine. If you have the skill it seems to be a great way to make some money. I wonder how many hours are in some of these...

    I would love to buy some of the hobo nickels I have seen online, I would be willing to pay a decent premium for a nice one. There are also some that are garbage. I think paying 2000x times face would be about right (maybe 3000x or 4000x). Sounds crazy when I put it that way. The key with these is that you have to think of them as original artwork and not an item that was produced by the thousands/millions like our coins are.
     
  12. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Probably is to someone. Some of these take quiet a time to create and I can see a price like that. Some of the billzach coins are awesome.
     
  13. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Im busting out the dremel tonight!
     
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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    As mentioned defacing coinage is legal if there is no fraudulent intent. The same is NOT true with the US currency. Defacing currency in such a way as to render it unfit to be reissued is illegal period. It doesn't matter whether there is fraudulent intent or not. (Frankly though, everyday use will eventually render it unfit to be reissued, so if you take it to the absurd extreme, using currency is illegal.)
     
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    Athena Sabrina New Member

  16. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    Well, it is art, and some of the artists are really good and pretty well known. Depends on who it is.
     
  17. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    What?
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    This thread is over 10 years old. Please start a new thread and explain.
     
  19. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    I've don't like/never have liked the idea, period, nor do I like the colorization of coins or paper money...most esp U.S. coins/money, using them as backdrops or easels for art, etc., no matter by whom. To each their own.
     
  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, I thought it might be "utter"
     
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