NGC Label Confusion

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by vincent2920, Dec 31, 2010.

  1. vincent2920

    vincent2920 Senior Member

    There have been several occasions on EBay where sellers have listed their Morgan / Peace dollars as S mint mark when in fact they are P. The confusion seems to be the way that NGC marks the labels. As an example they the label on a 1921 P is
    1921 S$1 whereas on a 1921 S it is 1921 S S$1. Why do they put the S on the
    1921 P ? Seems to just cause confusion. Some folks here may want to watch out for this when looking at these items to be sure what they are really bidding on.
     
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  3. cncman

    cncman Senior Member

    I think it stands for silver dollar, you are right, if you didn't know what you were looking at it could easily be confusing. Do they still do that?
     
  4. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Yes, it means silver dollar.
     
  5. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    I hope that sellers are just ignorant of this fact, and not using it to sell to unsuspecting buyers who may not notice until too late.
     
  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    For a seller to intentionally lie about the mintmark is courting trouble in the form of negative feedback.
    Most likely they just don't know any better.
     
  7. vincent2920

    vincent2920 Senior Member

    PCGS labels can be found with both. Some of the P mints have labels that say S$1 and others ( maybe newer ) leave off the S. I think the real confusion with NGC is that the date and S$1 on the labels are much closer together , whereas PCGS are on opposite sides of the label. I don't think sellers ( at least most ) are trying to do anything underhanded , I just think they don't know the difference.
     
  8. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    It doesn't really need to be there for 1921 since the only dollar issued was a silver dollar. But for other years the S$1 is necessary as gold dollars, designated G$1 on the slabs, were also issued. Sure, the labeling can be confusing for those unfamiliar with slabs and the way the labels are typed up, but I really can't have any sympathy for someone selling or buying a coin based 100% on the label and not looking at the actual coin.
     
  9. PoorJake

    PoorJake Junior Member

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