Have a look: some chinese coins I got in 2010 :)

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  1. jiexm2010

    jiexm2010 New Member

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  3. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Those are really cool ;)
     
  4. Simms

    Simms Tactile History

    What dynasty's / years are they? If I was to guess i would think the one in the very middle is the oldest being without a hole to put it on a string.
     
  5. jiexm2010

    jiexm2010 New Member

    Hi,Simms,

    you are right, that one is really the oldest, "an yi yi jin", warring state period, more than 2000 years ago.
    Upper two small round coins are from Qing dynasty.
    Then two larger round coins are two horse amulets, maybe not so old.
    Next two very large round coins are "chun you tong bao" and "jia ding yuan bao", from Song dynasty.
    The upper spade money is "da bu huang qian", from the same dynasty of xin (wangmang) with the 12 "huo bu" below.
    In the bottom line there are 10 "ban liang" of qin dynasty and 3 "wu zhu" of han dynasty and 1 "wu xing da bu" of northern zhou dynasty.

    Hope it helps.
     
  6. Simms

    Simms Tactile History

    Way cool! I would love to eventually dabble in the collecting of ancients, primarily Asian cultures, once I hone my skills a bit more I'll be sure to dive into the wonderful historical artifacts that I can only imagine the lives the coins once lived in their time.
     
  7. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    Always hard to tell from photographs, and that is the reason why I have to ask: How long have you been studying Chinese numismatics? Which of the known and trusted dealers (Taisei, Frank S. Robinson, Scott Semans, etc.) did you buy them from?

    I had two college classes in Japanese for Business before working for a Japanese company. The accountant had majored in Chinese and worked in China for a couple of years before coming to the States. I showed him my Chinese cash and he said that you can buy stuff like that at the Great Wall any day because they make it all the time. I indicated the patina on my pieces and he replied, "Overnight in pig brine."

    Just to say, if you don't know your coins, know your dealer.
     
  8. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I have trouble believing that all the coins you have there are genuine. These coins are getting quite expensive and from the middle of this year 2010, prices of all Chinese coins have skyrocketed more than 4 times for some coins; in some cases, over 10 times from what I am tracking.

    Here's a decent site to start off with when it comes down to Chinese cast coinage: http://www.calgarycoin.com/hub_china.htm

    And to have a rough idea what people pay for genuine examples, here's one good one: http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/calgarycoin/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=189

    If you tell me that you paid few dollars, I will be very skeptical.
     
  9. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    V e r y Cool! Thank you for posting the photo.
     
  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    http://chinesecoins.lyq.dk/eBaydealers.html

    This is a good site as well. Please be careful like others have said, as the flood of fakes is overwelming. From the site above I believe you will see its at least 10 dealers of fakes for every one dealer of good coins on Ebay. Some series can be collected safely, like northern Sung, as there are literally billions out there. In fact they just discovered a bank the other day, with hundreds of thousands of coins in it. Others, like the spades you have, are in tremendous demand and there are probably 100 fakes for every good one.

    Before you spend any serious money, please make sure you know how to distinguish the difference, or buy from a dealer who can.

    Chris
     
  11. jiexm2010

    jiexm2010 New Member

    Thank you guys so much for all kindly suggestions.

    Actually some coins are from Robinson and Semans, and some are from Vcoin stores.

    I am not sure all are genuine, while what I can say is most of them should be genuine. Usually I will send coin pics to my friends in China and let them help me to judge the authenticity.

    Maybe the picture I took is not good enough, you know it needs some skill to take high qulity pictures.

    Anyway, thanks a lot and let us enjoy coin collection.
     
  12. jiexm2010

    jiexm2010 New Member

    Btw, they are not cheap at all.

    I really paid some money for them. :)
     
  13. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    The ban liang and the wu zhu look fine to me, as well as the two Qing cash at the top. Of course, the ones with the horse are only amulets, probably within the last century. I know a member here has a great website on them, but I can't remember it at the moment.

    The spades and the two large pieces I would be very skeptical of, but I don't yet feel confident in commenting any further on them.
     
  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Sorry jiexm2010, but so many people come on here with Chinese fakes we are wary of those coins posted here. If you bought from Semans, Robinson, and Vcoins then you did pick up some really nice coins! Great job. I bought quite a bit in the late 90's from these dealers. I do see prices moving up quite a bit in the past, and expect it to continue to go up. I would make sure you keep all documentation of who you bought from because of all the fakes. I know I would pay much more for a collection with that documentation than without it.

    Chris

    Btw, do you have Hartill's book? Great beginning guide to Chinese ancients.
     
  15. jiexm2010

    jiexm2010 New Member

    Thank you so much, Chris, I can totally understand it. :)
     
  16. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    That's a great looking collection!
     
  17. StephenS

    StephenS Member

    Kind of funny, but to me some of these look like what you'd use to tighten a bolt or a lug nut.

    Pretty fascinating, though!
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    http://www.pasthorizons.com/index.php/archives/12/2010/massive-hoard-of-chinese-coins-uncovered

    I realize the OP coins are older and more rare than the run of the mill Song coins covered in the link above but it amazes me that there are so many fakes made of coins even of the common types when they find so many real ones. The photo in this link is almost scary. The fact remains that there are many fake Chinese coins and I am not comfortable making the call on many I see (some are obvious fakes but some I rely on one of the listed sellers for what I have).
     
  19. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    That is amazing. I think Chinese coins are some of the oldest "coin" currency. In the story, it says 20 different coins.
    Which ones, and did that affect the value of those 20, making them "common" now?
     
  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The current list of one of the dealers mentioned above offers lots of 100 ordinary Northern Song cash for $21.95 (nicer ones for twice that). Certainly there are rare varieties and probably some in the tons found in that group but the bulk of them were common before and are common still. Another million won't change that.
     
  21. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    Thanks for the info. Just think what a million 1916d dimes surfacing would do to values! :)
     
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