Hey... what's going on with these 1960 nickels?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by cubenewb, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. cubenewb

    cubenewb Consumer of Knowledge

    Hello everyone, I just got done searching a box today (only one silver :( ) and I couldn't help set aside these two specimens. Both are 1960-P, and as you can *hopefully* see by my photos (which regrettable suck due to the 10x loop + camcorder combo I used lol), both have what appears to be a small die crack on the 0 in 1960. Is this a minor die crack? Is this a well-known common crack? Do you think this is just PMD localized to the same area on two same date coins? I'm tending to think not... if it helps the little 'extra' is raised.

    I understand it's not worth anything, just wanted to make sure I'm classifying it correctly, and thought it would be cool to share with you guys two similar errors found in the same box!

    I put a 2 on pictures of the second coin to let you guys differentiate between the two:

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    Thanks in advance and I appreciate all contributions whether they be productive or comical :)
     
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  3. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    From an extremely unexperienced opinion, my initial thought is a die chip, rather than a crack. So I would say it is definitely possible that both of these coins came from the same die.
     
  4. cubenewb

    cubenewb Consumer of Knowledge

    Could this even be considered a cud? Since it is adjacent to the rim?
     
  5. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    Perhaps, I always made the distinction between the two like this:
    A Die chip is simply that, a chip in the die.
    Where-as a cud is a crack or chip that has since been "blown apart" by the minting process. And yes cuds are usually on teh edge of the coin (as far as I can recall) but on the other hand, cuds usually show a part of the rim has been broken off. If you click here you'll see most of these show the chip being a part of the rim as well as the field of the coin.
     
  6. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    No. The edge of the die would have to break off to produce a cud.
     
  7. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    This is pretty common on the '60-P but far more common on the '60-D.
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    These were shat were once called "bar" nickels. During the early 60's the nickels had a real rash of die chips forming at the top of the date and the letters. Sometimes there would be just one "bar" and other times you could find coins that had "bars" over multiple letters.

    Is it a cud? Interesting question. The break does not include the rim of the coin, but it does include the edge of the die. (The die has two edges one just outside the lettering at the inner edge of the rim and another, lower down, at the outside edge of the rim. If the break only includes the first edge and does not reach the top of the rim you get these "bars". If it includes the outer edge but not the inner one you get what is called a rim cud. If it includes both edges you have a design cud.)
     
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