Help on a grade appreciated

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by marbury518, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    Hi Folks,

    Just bought this Victoria Crown from an Italian auction. As it's 1847 I imagine its the XI

    Cinquefoil stops (s image2.jpg 3882). If the coin is as described by the auctioneer VF, then I did well, if it only grades at Fine, I may have broken even.

    Thanks, Marbury image1.jpg
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Fine details, harshly cleaned & scratched.
     
  4. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    Then I guess it becomes an issue about whether to pay a bill for a coin misrepresented in catalogue.as VF+.....hammer price was pretty lowish as it clearly wasn't great but quite a few auction
    houses I deal with make it clear when a coin has been cleaned. harshly or otherwise...........still always better to make cheap mistakes than expensive ones.....managed to avoid those so far! Thanks
    GDMSP

    hope todays Ducat from Milan impresses I little more.....Marbury518
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As I have mentioned numerous times in the past, many European sellers see no problem with a coin that has been harshly cleaned so it is often not mentioned at all.

    As always, grade is a matter of opinion. But I am surprised that they judged this one to be VF. I would agree that the reverse is VF, but the obverse is not IMO and a coin must be graded according to its worst side.
     
  6. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    Feedback from Auction house. Due dilligence was a only a minor issue and AH was happy to cancel bid because they were unfamiliar with this British coin and accpeted that they had
    not described the coin accurately. As I paid nothing and sold it for nothing I guess I break even!
     
  7. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......


    the dealers i know wouldn't touch harshly cleaned coins with a barge pole, i definitely don't think this particular coin is VF as it displays severe scratching on the obverse. i would grade it fine at most if not good.
     
  8. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    Sure Moneyer12.....as I said is thread......they accepted that they are not familiar with British coins and cancelled the bid without complaint......so all well that ends well......
    and it's not my coin to worry about anymore.......perhaps it'll soon apear on e-ba-
     
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