People, Do NOT, Under ANY Circumstances, Buy Coins Online Using Money Orders

Always add delivery confirmation on your shipments. It is a good way of proving your shipments. I sell a lot and buy as well but have never been scammed like the stories I've heard. I use paypal and I gotta say that I am very satisfied with their service. People use their credit cards to buy and they get their shipped items tracked all the way.
It is sad though to hear there are dishonest sellers out there like there is AT coin doctors as well. Sad to say but gotta' hatem'!

 

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I def do have delivery confirmation on the package I sent out to fix this misunderstanding.

 

I sent you an email explaining what'll happen from here on out.

You're not in any trouble whatsoever, and if they do question anything, you have my phone number to give to them so I can explain/confirm what happened.

 

Well, I'm certain both sampson and merc have already worked this out to mutual satisfaction. No sense in belaboring their initial situation. When USPS concludes their investigation, perhaps an update would be in order.

 

just got the e-mail...Thank you my friend! Maybe now should I reveal the name of the member who pocketed the halves that weren't theirs???? Merc let me know when you get the package, and what you think of the coins, in my opinion to get them from the bank they are in really good condition! Let me know what you think

 

Do it, put their name out there. Thieves, intentional or not, deserve to be outed.

Give them a chance to handle the matter privately, first, though. PM them and offer them one last chance to send them back. If they refuse, out 'em.

In other news, received the coins today. They're gorgeous coins, only a couple would go AU in my opinion, the rest are MS63-MS66.

 

Any update to the silver dollar's or the money order?

 

not yet - I made one last effort today with the seller...no reply. Monday I'll send in paperwork for a lost MO/trace and hope I get a refund from the USPS....I'll keep everyone posted with updates/changes.

js~

 

We may have jumped to a conclusion here ? I understand the coins were shipped to a different CT member than the buyer, and didn't return them. Are we positive the unintended recipient actually got them ? Has anyone been in contact with that person to find out why they weren't returned ? Is there anything that may have been overlooked that could have pr should be done before we label that person dishonest ? Even then, are we sure that person is not trying to make this right ?

gary

 

The person has had almost 3 month's to make it right.I don't see it happening

 

Probably not. But maybe they can't afford the return postage and are ashamed to admit it ? Did they respond to you in any way ? Could they have had an accident, gotten sick or something which might keep them from correcting things from their end ?

I mean. I got into a situation once on a Construction project where the boss didn;t get the payroll to the crews that Friday. Well, after a few hours waiting, the anger grew and grew. People were making threats, etc.

Turned out the poor man was killed in an auto accident on the way to the project. I mean, things happen that sometimes are beyond our control. I would hesitate to post the name, myself. I mean you did send the coins to them by your error, right ? Not that gives them the right to keep them, but they became involved in this involuntairily. Man, I truly don't know what's right to do here.

gary

 

Someone received something that was not theirs and has apparently kept it... I don't see the why there is all the discussion about who is right and who isn't.

It would take some extenuating circumstances to even come close to where something like this is ok.

 

exactly they just kept what wasn't theirs. I really think that their is no excuse, if you could afford to pay me what he did when he bought the coins that were his, I am positive he could afford to spend $5.00 to ship them back. I have tried to contact his e-mail it is no longer valid,I tried to contact his cell phone and the number is changed. I will not report them for this because I believe in Karma and everything comes back to you. I will not tell you guys his name yet, but I will tell you this....there are a lot of kids on this forum that should not legally be on here because they are far from 18 years old. Like I said the only reason I am ****ed is because I had to fix this lowlifes mistake by taking coins from my son. Yes I will replace his coins for Christmas and then some but it is the concept that people can not be trusted. I can sleep well knowing that Merc Crazy know's I am an honest person, I am glad he got the coins, but I am happier I got my integrity back.

 

I am truly glad you got that part of it straightened out. The only person who can dishonor you or damage your integrity is yourself. Man, it's too bad the person who got the coins accidentally has done this to himself. Karma is something that just is.
Everyone answers for their actions at some point. I know others have offered to help out here. Can you post the coins your son needs ?

It's true that although the forum is open to yopunger people, they cannot legally enter into a purchase agreement. But how else are young people going to learn the ethics of trading, buying and selling ? I am sorry this person skipped out on you and stand corrected. Maybe you should tell us who it was, so others do not deal with him ?

gary

 

Yeah, I'm all for outing the guy, what he did was despicable, regardless of age. I could speculate as to who it is, given what you've hinted, but this is a poor thing to speculate on.

 

I'm getting tired of reading these inuendo's about this third party who supposedly is the culprit in Sampson's situation. If you have something of a responsible and factual nature to inform this membership, please do, and be done with it.

 

This third person should be outed. Sampson, by doing this you could possibly save another bad transaction from happening on this forum.

 

A Strong Recommendation Against Revealing a Minors' Identity

I know you are correct about minors being present in this forum, as I personally have donated coins and other materials to self identified individuals. I was the recipient of consideration when I was young, and hope that other youths will also learn/understand the concept of morality through adult guidance/support.

Unless you know the individual to be an adult in his local, I would strongly suggest silence about the individuals identity, as minors have legal "privileges" generally not afforded adults.

Generally youths are subject to minimal legal regulation, and have extraordinary rights pertinent to personal identity and disclosure protection. The courts are very mindful of these facts, and often seemingly over-react in protecting minors' from unsupported accusations of mindful lawlessness. The Judges' bar for proof of intent may be appreciably greater for a minor, than that of an adult.

I hope that a pleading, as you previously stated, may motivate the recipient to return the coins, especially if the individual receives an assurance that the return expenses will be repaid, making the individual "whole".

"Just a thought" from an experienced "old man" who had a similar situation as a youth, and had to borrow funds from a trusting Jewish adult to do the "correct thing", because all of my earned income supported our family, I never received compensation for my expense, was unable to return the borrowed funds, and was ostracized in the community, losing the ability to earn some funds. :thumb:

 

There's a difference between simply saying "This person acted unethically," and "This person is a thief and I am entitled to pursue the matter legally."

As I said before, send them a message giving them a chance to return said coins to you, and if they don't, out them here for unethical behavior.

 

Calling anyone out here by their chosen forum name breaks no state laws or any laws governing cyberspace. Giving one's true identity, is another issue . If this individual has abused their priviledges in this forum or has committed an infraction, such as not paying for goods received, should be openly identified to protect others from a similar abuse. I don't care whether they are 80 or 12 years old. While I have an appreciation for your warning IMRICH, it doesn't apply here, in this situation.