The Toning Premium Thread

The photo looks badly juiced. My guess is that those colors carry almost no vibrancy in hand. I guess $75.

 

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$120

 

$130, gotta win another one so I can finally post a good pic.

 

I agree with the $75 guestimate

 

I like the color but agree the photos are harsh. Would like to see the coin in hand to see what's going on. $115.

 

bravo i havesnt wasted my life finally ur seeing the light

 

Photo was not juiced, but was "lit up" heavily. I poored the light to it, at least the best I could and this is what came out. Take a look at this coin on heritage:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1151&LotIdNo=151003
There are a couple of photo's of the obverse posted.
Question I would ask you and the forum: Is one of the pictures "juiced",, they suuure don't look the same to me,,, Why not ? (juiced or lit up?)
In either case, it does bring up a good aspect of toners: IMO almost all of them look dark in and much much less colorful in hand compared to the pictures that most toner sellers post. The color is generally only shown when the coin is placed in an environment with an unnatural level of lighting,, or even super saturated with light before the coin appears similar to the pictures that are often posted.

In this case, the coin was exposed to a flood of light,, actually made my forhead hot to when I dropped over it to snap the picture.

I'll snap a couple more and post them.
1st one will be with same lighting and then I'll go in a drop the color saturation level 10%.
2nd one will be on my kitchen table in normal ambient lighting (few fluorscent cloud lights on the ceiling and open windows on a hazing snowy day with no direct sun).

My opinion, again, is that almost all the toners we will see in this post are juiced (including mine). If you want to know what a "monstor" toner actually looks like in then look at the darker of the obverse pictures in the heritage link. Also note that this coin will even appear darker than that in normal ambient light.

 

1st one is kitchen table, normal kitchen light in average household during a cloudy day.
2nd is the same light flood as the original, then saturation dialed down 15%.

I know they appear similar in light reflection pattern under the two different conditions,,, dunno why that is, figured the kitchen picture would have been a lot darker and maybe more evenly muted... apparently the glare from the holder and light pattern filters to the coin the same under very different conditions... anyway, if you find it odd,, so did I.

 

Thoughts on this one?



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i can assure you none of my coins are dark and not as vibrant in hand. The reason people pay crazy money for toned morgans is they are worth the money when you see them in hand. Secondly I dont juice my photos, all my coins look exactly like they do in hand as they do in this thread. You have a lot to learn about toned coins before you go around accusing everyone of juicing their pictures. Secondly the reason why the coin looks dark in heritages slab picture is they are using almost no lighting for the slab picture, which is why it does not pick up color at all and depth which is why it looks dull. A little food for thought.

 

I am pretty sure the HA images are mine. The coin closeup shots are not juiced but they are lit properly. Full slab shots cannot have the same lighting placed on them because of the glare. I am not a fan of full slab shots to evaluate coins, for me they are there solely to verify the coin and holder.

 

SeaSnake is da'winner ! I paid around 145 for this one delivered.
Some points:
1 - I'm not accusing anyone of "juicing pictures".... I'm saying that all toners I've seen, ever, have looked different in hand than in a picture.... unless you take the coin in hand and place it under high light,, when I say high light, I mean generally higher than ambient, and higher than I normally view a coin under increased lighting. Think of the light they use on you when you go to have a family portrait taken by a professional photographer,,, then increase it a bit...
2 - I have never in my life seen a coin that looks like the more colorful one in the heritage link that didn't have to be plugged in and recharged every night. Nor do I believe that coins appears that way in hand in ambient light... my guess is that the duller picture in the heritage pic is closer to reality,,,, but that's just me.
3 - My main point is that toned coins can be made to look much different under different light,,, without photoshopping a picture. Applying proper lighting (whatever proper lighting is) influences the amount of color that manifests in any given photo.... more light = more color in my experience. Crazy light = crazy color. I have another coin I'll post when it's my turn again that has a black area of toning,, dail up the light a bit, and viola, blues and reds begin to appear.

** Please don't take my views as directed to anyone and malicious,,, I'm sure, as has been said, that high $$ toners realize thier margin because of exactly what was said,, ie- they are beautiful in hand. and for what's it's worth, I'm tracking that coin in the link,, even the duller picture is attractive to me, and if I do bid, that will be the coin that I'd expect to receive.

 

Odd you say that,,, this is what heritage posted right under the coin:
"We changed the way we image slabbed coins on February 1, 2010, in order to get a more accurate image of the coin. To get the sharper details and more accurate colors we have focused the lighting on the actual coin, which has caused the top of the holders to appear darker and milky. Please disregard the color of the holders when examining the images"

So if they are using almost no light, at least it's focused on the coin ; )

 

no light = no color, its that simple. same works for the human eye. if your eyes closed you dont see colors now do you?

 

I just bought this a few days ago, don't even have it in hand yet.

 

I'm going to say $250

 

That's the only 45-s 67 star micro s I've ever seen.... will say $375

 

$325