Help with an English Florin please

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by BRandM, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

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    I wonder if someone can help me attribute this Florin. I see in my research that they're assigned Spinks or KM numbers, which I assume are reference books that deal with this issue and others(?) The legend "Brit" without die numbers indicates that it was minted between 1851 and 1863. The gothic style Roman numerals appear to read MDCCCLII that would make this an 1852. I've enlarged the area where the date is and where the die number would appear (below the bust). I don't see one, but the coin is pretty worn so maybe I'm missing it. If anyone could look this up in their references I'd appreciate it. Also, is this coin common and what would you grade it as. I'm thinking AG/G. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

    Bruce
     
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  3. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    you are correct, this is an 1852 florin, (s.3891) which is the spink reference number, and it is common. die numbers were not used on florins until 1864, so there isn't one on this coin. i would also agree with you that it is g.
     
  4. Texas John

    Texas John Collector of oddments

    The real mystery to me is the marking on the Queen's neck.
     
  5. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Thanks for the info swish. I saw some really high grade ones on the internet when I was doing my research. It's really a beautiful coin.

    Texas John / If you mean the pattern at the bottom of the bust near the rim, that's part of the Queen's dress (shoulder strap I think). My coin, being so worn, only shows that little piece of it. It does look like some kind of a counterstamp though, unless you've seen a higher grade example.

    Bruce
     
  6. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......

    the marking on the queens neck is part of the original portrait, it is a diademed necklie to the dress the queen is wearing.
     
  7. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......

    i have posted a photo of my godless florin which has the same bust design as your's

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  8. slamster17

    slamster17 Junior Member

    Nice coins! love the florins!
     
  9. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Thanks for the clarification moneyer12. Like I said I really do like this coin and am seriously thinking about buying a high grade example.

    Bruce
     
  10. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I found this 1873 florin in a California coin dealer's "junk box" in the mid 1960's.
    It was pretty dirty at the time, and I probably paid 50¢ for it.
    I found it again and decided to clean it off with baking soda,
    which revealed that someone had scratched letters or initials into the coin.

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    Obverse
    The letters look like "LL" and "DH

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    Reverse
    The letters look like "LL" and "CH" on the cross.

    But why?

    :)
     
  11. Prestoninanus

    Prestoninanus Junior Member

    It used to be a common practice up until the First World War to create love tokens by etching the initials of the couple onto a coin...
     
  12. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......


    if you can get hold of one the "godless florin" like the one in the photo i posted is the most valuable, it is called godless because the legend dei gratia or dg was omitted from the obverse desigh. they were issued between 1849 and 1851
     
  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    For me Victoria's Gothic crown and florin are the best modern coins ever minted. Alas the crown being soooo expensive, I have to feel happy enough with a florin.

    Q

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  14. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    the 1863 and 1864 florins are valued (individually) around 5x the godless one.
     
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