Screw me once...

...shame on you. Screw me twice...shame on you, too!!!

On ebay, I bought a beautifully toned NGC graded MS64 1962-Franklin half for 65 dollars. It was a beautiful coin. Almost immediately the seller marks it shipped and even gives me a tracking number. A week later, I get an email from him saying he lost the coin and he refunded my money. Things happen. I gave him a good feedback.

Then I bought another coin from this guy. It was a raw VF 1942-P Walker for thirteen bucks. I'm not a Walker guy, but I liked it because it had a nice blue tone to it and the price was right.

Today I get the coin in the mail. NOT!!! I did not get the blue Walker I bought. He sent me what he graded as an MS-63 1942-P Walker. It's a beautiful coin. It deserves to be graded. It's got a 45 dollar price tag on the back of the flip.

I'm keeping it. I'm not going to let him know and I'm not giving him a feedback.

 

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Interesting, although I feel like you lucked out, did you ever think the seller made an attempt to right the intial transaction by sending you this coin?

Either way, thats pretty cool

 

I have mix thoughts on this situation. Probably because someone else got to the coin you brought and will be disappointed like you.

I suppose I would contact the seller and offer to return the coin and have him pay for shipping and a total refund of your payment. If he did not agree to those conditions I would keep the coin and give a neg in feedback.

Of course no matter what the outcome I would place him on my do not buy list.

 

This guy is playing you! reconsider leaving neutral feedback at the very least, it,s obvious this guy
Did not get the money out of the original coin he thought he would and told you he lost it
Send him a message!!

 

You would have thought the seller would have asked me for the upgrade. I would have been happier with the blue one. I liked the toning better than the coin. I would have kept that one. This one's going back on ebay.

 

He sent you something better than you expected (mistake? purposefully? you don't know). If you are happy with the coin, you leave positive feedback. If he charged you a reasonable amt on shipping, you give him 5 stars for that. If he sent it quickly, you give him 5 stars for that too ..

 

I just got done looking at this guy's feedback. He's got a few gray and red marks. One of the gray marks was from last July. It was the original coin I ordered!!! The guy complained that the coin did not look like the picture. Most of the other gray and red feedbacks were for coins that did not look like or were not the coins pictured. I'm leaving it this way. I sell quite a bit on ebay and I don't want my negative feedback to backfire. I got my money back for the original coin and got a real beauty for thirteen bucks, which I'm going to resell.

 

Of course this is your transaction but if your not happy!! You need to leave accurate feedback
So the rest of us know to steer clear of this guy if not negative then it would be best to leave
Neutral leaving nothing wont let anybody know what,s been going on with this guy!

 

It's not that I'm unhappy. Walkers like the one I originally bought are a dime a dozen. I got the better end of the deal by getting a much better coin, which will make me a profit. This guy is just sloppy in the way he does things.

 

Seriously? Wow, I'm sorry to say that I don't understand your reasoning. The first transaction went bad and he refunded your money. You were made whole. You understood and were OK with that. Now in a separate sale you receive a better grade coin than you purchased and you think it's OK not to make him aware of his mistake. If it was a grade less than you expected you would be raising 'ell! IMO you should make him aware of the error and work with him to resolve things. He may just say to keep it but he also may ask you to return it... at least you'll be able to look at it with a clear conscience. You can leave what ever feedback you feel is appropriate.

 

This guy is a sloppy businessperson. He sells me a coin that he sold to somebody else last July, and that buyer left him a neutral feedback. Now he's going to make another mistake, whether it's an upgrade from what I bought or not. Yeah, if it was a lesser coin you're darn right I would complain. I made two different transactions with this guy and he screwed up both orders. How many strikes does this guy get? He's already got three. The first strike was when he relisted a coin he sold before. I'm not going to waste my time with this guy anymore.

 

OK, I understand you are frustrated with this seller but it shouldn't keep you from doing the right thing IMO. Is he sloppy? Yes. Would I buy from him again? No. I WOULD make him aware of the situation and work it out. I would then leave him the feedback you think he deserves to warn others about your experiences. If you feel that you are entitled to benefit from his mistake as some sort of compensation for the other transaction then that's your decision. Just remember that you may get "sloppy" someday and I'll bet you would want someone to be honest with you. I'm not passing judgement I'm just telling you how I would handle it (and have handled situations very similar to this). It's your world I just post in it.

 

Sound,s like good advice

 

Half way down the thread, after dealing with a stranger twice, and getting at the very least, sloppy service, you say that you just looked at his feedback...

The feedback system is there so that you can study it BEFORE ever even contemplating a bid on a seller's items.
I will STUDY feedback and be VERY discriminating on how I process that info, before bidding.

Maybe he screwed you, maybe he didn't... However, YOU sure screwed you!
Sorry for being blunt. Just my .02, worth what you paid for it.

 

sounds like the guy made an honest mistake with the franklin. i could not keep a coin knowing it was sent to be by mistake, does not seem like the right thing to do.

 

You should tell the seller about the mistake. Doing nothing is not honest.

 

Without knowing how much volume this seller does, it's hard to understand so many mistakes. But, again, mistakes do happen and like everything else, seem to run in streaks. I believe you should communicate with the seller and find out exactly what is going on. Then leave feedback or not. I am very hesitant to leave anything less than a positive feedback, simply because mistakes do happen. And I truly have never encountered a seller who actually tried to cheat me, except for ambiguous listing infotmation. Then I just didn't respond, but took my lumps. You know, if everyone wasn't pretty honest, the thing wouldn;t work at all. IMHO

gary

 

OK, I checked this guy out. He's a mega-seller, but he's not a top rated seller. He has 44 pages of coins for sale. His avatar is the front of his shop. In the last month he's had 126 positive feedbacks and two neutrals. One of the neutrals was for him canceling the order, just like he did me. In the past year he's had six neutrals and four negative feedbacks. One of the neutrals was for the Franklin he sold me. The guy said it didn't look like the picture. One of the negatives was for another canceled order. Just like mine. He said he had to cancel the orders because he was at a show and the coins were sold at the shop.

OK, my first order was canceled because it was already sold a few months before. Two other buyers complained because the seller cancelled their order, the reason being the coins were sold without him knowing about it. How many other orders has he canceled, and the buyers accepted the refund without complaining? My second order was wrong. It was an upgrade, but it was wrong. It seems like this guy is doing too much at one time. I always look at the feedback before I buy. I can deal with a few negatives when he has a thousand positives. He's making the same mistake over and over again. I don't think me saying anything to him is going to tell him something he doesn't already know. I don't want to bother with him anymore. I'm going to hang onto the Walker for a month. If he doesn't contact me I'm going to sell it. I'm not going to feel guilty about it either.

 

When I think I get something by mistake (because it is better than expected), I call or write back to announce it. I usually ask if I owe more money.

Seems like you have a lot of experience with buying and selling and trading off again. Perhaps you and the other fellow are more "peers" than not, a little tolerance will likely go far.

Count your blessings.

 

Maybe next time you should just keep it to your self and not proudly announce to the world how you are taking advantage of someones mistake with out any remorse.