Toned copper cents

So I really like finding nicely toned copper cents while roll searching and such. I think the natural toned ones look nice and really pop when in albums.

I am really trying to see if I can tell the difference between natural and artificial toning on cents. I would like to think that I can now tell the difference.

I beleive this first one is for sure artificial (people are paying $30 for this thing) and the next 3 are natural toned. Do you all agree?

Terrible Artificial:


Nice natural toning:




What do you think? Am I accurate?

 

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I would agree in my not that educated opinion. I have found many like the top two (purp,red) naturally toned cents, and a few of the nice blues. But never have I seen one that looked like the one up top, too much variation amongst the colors and it appears painted on rather than "in" the coin. I will try and get a pic of an amazing 62 canadian cent, but its difficult to capture the toning with my camera.

 

I am not the toning expert, but I think everyone will agree the first if AT. I agree that the second and third are likely NT. However, I would guess that the last one has seen some MS70 (cleaner).

 

I am just shocked that people would pay $30 for that monstrosity. Anyway, ok I think I'm on the right track with distinguishing them. I have some beautiful natural toned cents that have those blues and some vibrant greens and oranges as well.

Thanks for the input fellas.

 

My toned 62. I only worry that over time the original packaging may start to cause non beneficial toning? Should I take it out of the mint set packaging or leave it in? The silver coins in the container also exhibit toning of a lesser degree of a dark blue around some edges.

 

Oh wow, that is serious toning. See , if I saw that on ebay I would think that is artificial because the colors are so intense! But the pattern of colors looks natural for sure. Very nice!
As far as 'non-beneficial' toning, I cannot answer that. On silver, I beleive, once it starts turning black, then that is serious deterioration. At least thats what I was told in another thread.

 

I was able to snag the 62 mint set at a killer deal, and for the right price I would be willing to sell it. Perhaps I should read up on the toning premium thread and see what I could expect for a coin as such.

 

I would think you would get a pretty strong price for it. Like I said, those terrible artificially ones are selling for $20-$30 each, all day long.

 

Also, let me know if you come up with a price. I may be interested! I also collect Canadian coins.

 

I would take the coin out and either get it slabbed or put it in an airtite. To leave the coin in the folder that's causing it to tone will eventually lead to a black, unattractive coin. It might happen in a year, or it might take 10, but it will likely not stop.

 

The first and last coin do not appear to me to be natural. The last coin appears to have been cleaned with some type of detergent which leaves the telltale blue. The first coin is just all wrong.

 

Ahhh, so blue is not a good sign? Thank you!

 

Here is one that toned in my Dansco Album. It wasn't looking like that when I put it in there.

I was trying to show which image was best.

 

Love it!

 

Not when it's the only color or mixed with a similar tone of violet. Do a search on NGC or PCGS forums for "blue IHC" and read quite a bit, or study the following:

 

With all do respect, I don't like any of them. Toned copper is rarely attractive IMO. There are obviously exceptions, but none of these coins qualify and the first one is definitely AT as everyone seems to have indicated already.

 

Toned is another word for tarnished, the only difference is that people will pay more money for the toned coin.

 

Check your PM's

 

I experimented last night to see if I could get the cents to look like that artificially toned one. I could not do it. They did turn colors, but nothing that vivid. I really want to post some on ebay and then in my description explain to potential buyers how they ARE artificially toned, and how they SHOULDN'T buy any of them from me or anyone else for that matter. I don't know why I get so ****ed off seeing this seller make soooo much money for total crap. He also does it for common buffalo nickels.

Should I actually care this much? Probably not.