2010 Proof Silver Eagles

Images of haze/build up on 2010-W Proof ASEs

Below are several examples from a just a few of the coins I received that show the 'haze' I mentioned seeing in the mirrored fields. It can be seen with the naked eye, but it really comes out under light magnification and when a strong light at a rather severe angle hits the coin.

These images were hard for me to take juggling an LED flashlight, 5x aspheric loupe and pressing the shutter button on my tripod mounted camera simultaneously.

I highly recommend everyone, especially those with large orders of these coins, check your coins with a bright lamp and under magnification. Rotate the coin as you look in the regions of IGWT, the eagle's wing tips and around the devices nearest the rim. This is where I have mostly noticed the haze seems to have become trapped or built up, maybe something that refused to get washed off. I'm not sure what it is from, but I don't like it!

 

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WOW - that's terrible ! I ordered 5 from the mint, I'm gonna check them out closely. Thank you for the photos and the info.

 

Let us know what you find, if you find any problems at all with your coins.

 

Krispy: Can ya open the capsule up and clean a coin? Would be interesting to see if ya can just wipe away the stuff, or if it's something more damaging. Got one on order, just curious on the outcome, if you decide to try this.
Jon

 

You should never 'wipe' a coin... especially a proof coin!!!

I personally will not do this and risk damaging the coin. Doing so would almost certain scratch the mirrored fields in the process and render the coin tampered with, not accepted for return within the allowable return policy.

 

I agree with ya! The idea I had was for one to open up the capsule and see if the 'residue' was removable. LOL: certainly didn't mean to scrub the coin with a brillo pad! (does the refraction (reflection) of the capsule in any way add to the 'residue'?
Thanks
Jon

 

but aren't these just bullion with the value tied to the spot price of silver? do these really have any numismatic value? why would one be concerned about a blemish? just curious.

 

Go back to your cave, troll. rawbuyer only ever comes to such threads to agitate things that please other collectors.

Everyone should ignore this poster and if you don't believe me, look at his past posts that always reiterate the same "curiousness"...

rawbuyer is a troll! don't feed the troll!

 

was just curious...we all collect what we like.

 

NEVER WIPE A COIN!

Any and all fabrics, cotton, polys, blends, even micro-fibers, can and will, especially on a Proof, leave hairline scratches to the surface of the coin.

NEVER WIPE A COIN!!!

The capsule is only a challenge to take a photograph through. The mirror fields of a proof coin and the capsule both add distracting reflections to try to avoid when photographing. I did my best to illustrate the surface condition of the coins, showing the haze, and avoiding the reflections.

 

While this bolded statement is true, your sincerity in light of past instances has done plenty to ruin your reputation for repeatedly stating your 'curiosity' in such threads. This is the way you have demonstrated yourself to behave regarding these topics in the past and this appears no different.

 

we all collect what we find interesting

 

Nice Chris....:thumb:

OOPS......I was responding to your initial photog post. I didn't see the other pics till just now. How disappointing for you on some of those.

 

Thanks Ken, yes, it was a big let down, but fortunately I can return the real problem coins.

 

I guess I'm lucky....I think. The 2 I got appear to be flawless. After seeing this I went back again and looked them over as hard as I could but I still can't find any flaws. Then again this wasn't with the benefit of an LED flashlight, 5x aspheric loupe etc...which begs the question(s). Do the grading companies use magnification to draw out "flaws"? I mean, what lengths do they go to grade a perfect coin? Do they magnify 5 times and use ultra sensitive lighting to grade?

 

Now that I know where to look I can see these flaws without the loupe but the angle and strength of lighting is important for seeing it, and the magnification really reveals the extent of the haze.

You can watch a video on the PGCS/services page to see some graders in action. Yes, the look at coins under magnification.

 

And a solid reasoning behind your advice to open the mint packaging and check the contents for flaws. Folks that leave 'em in the mint shipping boxes for extended periods of time may potentially suffer an experience similar to yours or even more so, with no recourse action available for their plight.

Small question. If one were to send it off to NGC in the unopened shipping box would the grade be hampered by this haze? I don't send coins in but there are many here who do. Just wondering...

 

I wonder how many of these coins will be affected by this haze, compare this to the mintage figures !

 

Like Chris mentioned, once you know where to look you can see it without the magnification. Just a good strong bright lamp will do.

 

Oh yes! An excellent point. Something old Danr should consider about his coins left in the shipping cartons. Thanks for bringing this up.

I sure don't know. I don't think it should be any different than when they grade others that only later seem to have developed milk spots after being sealed in the holders. I don't think it's really something that is wrong with the coin itself but something left on the coin from minting. While this substance shows no effect on the coin (i.e. corrosion) at this time, there is no telling if long down the road, it might not turn into something worse. I guess if graded and a problem develops in ensuing years it becomes the problem of a future collectors.

To me, this is one of those things about problem coins, that if it has a problem now, it always will and if it bothers you now it probably always will. The sooner you get rid of it and replace it with one that pleases you, problem free, the happier you and your collection will be. :thumb: