Today I saw a common date peace dollar that was counterfeit. I must say the quality was quite good. It was the first one I've seen, and I fear that more and more are going to start popping up. Has anyone else encountered these, or seen any information on them?
I believe there are a lot of these that are going to start coming out of China and other areas. There are already many key dates on ebay coming from there that are OBVIOUSLY base metal with silver plating. BUYER BEWARE!
I hate to burst your bubble Zane, but the first Peace Dollar counterfeits were probably produced in 1921 - 1922 at the latest! I'm shocked that you have never run across any of the misdated or distorted features counterfeits pouring out of China, alongside the crummy inaccuarate fakes of Hong Kong Dollars, Trade Dollars (US, British and Japanese), and other silver crowns. You must not be looking at EBay very often or very carefully.
I see tons of other counterfeit coins. Especially trade dollars, but today was the first peace dollar for me. I've never looked at peace dollars on ebay, which is most likely why I haven't seen them, as there are many many fake morgan and trade dollars on ebay, so it would only make sense for the peace dollars to be there too.
I've seen photos of one fake peace dollar but it wasn't really good---it would have fooled alot and might have even gotten me but after looking at it the detail was just really mushy. Speedy
I have about 40 counterfeit's from china that someone got scammed with on ebay. They are all kinds from 1802 (I think, might be 1812) on up to even a fake Ike. The Ike is really crappy. I have peace, morgan, seated, trade, whatever. Easiest way to tell is to drop one, no ring like silver.
I use a method of NDT to check my coins. all metals have a IACS # asigned to them- that is how good they conduct electricty. I dont even touch the coin and I can tell you if it is made out of lead or plated. the coin just has to enter the field of electricy and I have the #, now as far as counterfits on the true metals I leave that up to ngc,pcgs,anacs
http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/category/class_433.html How many would you like? They even have the 1964 Peace dollar for sale.
Yeah, check out the quality of that '64-D. It's so aweful that they had to throw them in a tumler to make them look circulated to hide all the imperfections.
There is a better struck version on that page, so I guess he's emulating Daniel Carr in that Moonlight Mint sells both UNC and Circ. 1964-D Peace dollars.
I gotta be honest. When I first registered I figured I'd ask a Q and that would be it. I WAS WRONG, I see this stuff and need to know more. OK. I'm greedy that way. The answer to the questions raised here didn't quite answer the ones in my head and I went to look for them. I like research rather that asking for answers, it's more fun to me. I found a site that may help other new to collecting or just interested persons. It made it clear as day to me about counterfeits. http://www.silver-coins.org/ I usually trust .org, edu the most for written info. No offense, you all are great too. It doesn't mean I won't fade away for a time. I do that everywhere. Anyway, rhank's for your site.