Error Coin Penny

This penny came from a new roll in 1971, although I have collected for many years, I have never got serious and learned all the terms. It appears that part of the Lincoln Memoral has been stamped on the front of this coin. Would appreciate any thoughts on this.

 

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Looks like a cud, I don't think its a secondary strike of the reverse.
May even be PMD (Post Mint Damage).

 

A cud would produce raised metal, not an indentation.

 

I watched the cashier open this roll of new pennys, so It rules out post mint. Should have stated new roll on first post. He tried to buy it back, as he was a collector. Still kids me to this day.
The odd thing is that it is real deep, with no damage to the back side, some to the edge.

 

Got a pic of the reverse?

 

Here is the reverse side

 

The reverse appears to be fully struck directly opposite the missing obverse metal so I would think the damage (or whatever it is) happened after the coin was struck. If the hunk of metal was missing before the coin was struck the corresponding reverse location would not be fully struck.

 

Sound like good judgment call, but does not explain how this could happen, maybe it will remain a mystory. Love logging into the knowledge on this site, you guys come up with things I could never think of.

 

This is an error that happened at the time of the strike. If the damage happened after it left the collar then the reverse would show signs of damage from a dent as big as this. At first I thought it was the first coin on a saddle strike but the edge of the second image does not show a normal rim. I am leaning towards a possible struck through a lamination piece from a previous coin. The image within the dent is indeed of the reverse of the coin. maybe Mike Diamond will chime in on this one.

Richard

 

Whatever happened to it I believe happened during the strike. Maybe a die cap was falling off at the time of this strike and only partially caught this planchet during the strike. Just a guess...

 

It looks to me like another cent failed to drop from the press when stamped and the edge caught the planchet of your coin and the image was pressed into it when the stamping was done. If the reverse was wedged against your coin, that would account for the image. As also stated, the rim and other parts of the coin are undamaged.

gary

 

I agree. Looks like the planchet that went for the ride before this one had a major malfunction and a piece of it hung around for this strike.

 

This coin is dated 1971, so how could it have been a roll of 'new' pennies that excludes the possibility of PMD? Unless you got it from the cashier in 1971 of course.

That said, I do see weakness in the TE of STATES, directly opposite the struck-thru or whatever it is.

 

If you read the first line of the OP you will see that is exactly what he said happened.

 

Could be. I said what I thought it was NOT. I said I thought the void was not there when the coin was struck. By that I meant I did not think the planchet had a hunk missing before it was struck. If a huge hunk was missing before it was struck the corresponding reverse area would be weakly struck.

I did not say what I thought caused the anomaly. A strike-through is certainly a possibility. An indent is also a possibility. I see some design elements that appear to have come from the reverse of a cent (coin or die). But I am hesitant to stick my neck out and say that it absolutely is this or that. It is a VERY interesting piece and I can't wait to hear from the experts (e.g., Mike Diamond).

 

This looks like a nice partial brockage to me. Great find! Struck thru a piece of delamination sounds like the best possibility.

 

Yep, partial brockage. When is coin was struck there was a previosly struck cent partially overlapping the coining chamber between the planchet and the obverse die.

 

Thanks again for all of you very interesting input. This one will go to my grandson who really enjoyed reading all the posts.

 

It first was mint damage that was turned in to a cud lol

 

You lost me with that answer, how could it be a cud when it is not a raised area?