More new pickups - lrg cents, flying eagle cent, half dime, & 3 CN cent

Traded today for some older coins. I filled two holes in my Large Cent Dansco Album with a 1830 Large Letters, and an 1837 Medium Letters.

I also picked up 3 coins for a future type set that I will start one day....

1858 Flying Eagle....my first. This one is in pretty decent shape

A Half dime....the picture is bad, but it is in fine I believe...also, my first

A Copper/Nickel 3 cent piece....my first

I traded to get all five of these coins for 14 90% silver 1964 Kennedy Halfs, and 3 40% Halfs. Plus he returned 2 bucks to me (paper). Since I got all of these halves at face by roll searching, I essentially got all five for $6.50 out of my budget.

Not bad eh? What doya think?

 

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Nice coins, Bob. Really like the 1830.

 

love the top one. is this worth a bid do you think?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USA-1847-LARG...706659?pt=UK_Coins_USA_RL&hash=item5196769c63

 

Nice and while my large cent album is mostly filled I think I still need the 1837 plain hair cords medium letters.

As to bidding on that coin - maybe if you got it for no more than $5 (american) including shipping. Pretty beat up. I know for a few dollars more you can http://www.largecents.net/forsale.php you can sometimes get some good problem free coins here. If nothing else you can use tom's site for reference.

 

Yes, the 1830 is quite a nice coin....the 1837 is rather circulated, but it filled another hole.

I might try to get better pics as the other 3 coins are much better than they appear here...

 

What grade on that flying eagle? There is some detail on the feather, but not as much on the tail. Your thoughts?

 

I would say VF details on the IHC. Details because it looks scratched with a couple of rim dings. And no not bad.

 

Love the half dime and the flying eagle!

 

Thanks! The 3 cent coin is also very nice....that is just a bad picture. I was quite please with these pickups.

 

I really couldn't ID the obverse of the 1830. It appears plenty good enough to do that and it's frustrating that I couldn't. Sorry. The thirteenth star pointing at the middle of the dentil eliminates all the close matches I can see. (All the close matches are Obverse 4)

The second star either points between dentils or nearly does.

Obverse 1 Middle of Dentil
Obverse 2 Middle of Dentil
Obverse 3 Middle of Dentil
Obverse 4 Nearly between Dentil
Obverse 5 Middle of Dentil

This makes it appear like it has to be Obverse 4, BUT on Obverse 4, Stars 1, 2 and 13 point between dentils. It appears to me that 2, 3 and 10 are the stars between dentils here with 13 being in the middle and not even close on the OPs coin.

 

Are you going to the Money show? If you do, be sure to take the 1830 with you and get one of the copper experts to look at it. I think it would be worth it to get an expert opinion. There should be several there. But make sure it's a real copperhead and not someone posing. You need someone like Grellman or Bland or 900fine or Cris McCawley.

 

Yes, I'm going. What are you saying about the stars pointing? Might this be a more rare variety or something?

I think that is a good idea to take it. I'll look for 900fine and pennylady and see what they think.

 

Man those rims are killing me on that 1830, but even with that said it is still my favorite of the bunch!
Love to see your pickups Bob!

 

An obverse which cannot be IDed has several potential conclusions.

1. It could be a misidentification by the attributer.
2. There could be unrecognized Mint error.
3. There could be unrecognized Post Mint damage.
4. It could be a counterfeit.
5. It may be a newly discovered Obverse.

These remain possibilities and probability falls in that approximate order. But the fifth possibility is there and should be pursued.

ps I don't know if John Wright still goes to these shows, but he has been a long time expert on the middle dates.

 

I have a 1837 plain bands with Small letters, but the terminology is a bit different for 1837s. When attributing them by year, they are usually referred to as Large Letters and Small letters. The Red Book references them as Medium Letters and Small letters. All but reverses D, G, H and L are Medium Letters.

I believe these two fit the definition of Plain Bands and Medium Letters.

N-14


N-16

 

I'm bumping this because I'm growing in confidence that this might be that most special of coins, a discovery piece.

New observation: I compared this 1830 with the Holmes catalog N-5s and N-6. All have the inner circle fading behind the head. The inner circle is strong around the complete subject coin.

 

OK! Now I get to retreat a bit. I just checked Heritage Archives and enlarged your coins image. The apparent pointing of Star 13 at a dentil may be from a broken inner circle in combination with a weak dentil causing my misinterpretation of it's position. The images on Heritage look closer to what I see on your coin than the auction catalogs or my Cent Book for N-5.

 

I haven't heard from the "expert" who took pictures of it....his name was Greg Hannigan. The other person who looked at it and said that it was a Newcomb 5 was Chris McCawley. He was packing up to leave when I showed him the coin, and he said he would like to have looked at his books, but he called it a Newcomb 5 after looking at it for about 5 seconds. So, I'll be interested to hear from Hannigan about his thoughts.

I wish I would have made it earlier and I could have met you as well, Marshall, and you could have seen the coin first hand.

I'll let you know when I hear....

 

If you're ever in the Golden Triangle area and have a free moment, I'd be happy to meet you.

ps Chris' N-5 attribution at least gives me an idea of which reverse you have since that image wasn't shown. The N-5 and N-6 have entirely different reverses and can be spotted very easily. The N-5 has Medium (called Large in Cent Book) letters and the leaf is under the left side of the (E)S while the N-6 has Small letters [note the gap between the E and S of STATES) and the leaf is under the Right side of the (E)S.

pss I just looked up Greg's site and he has accumulated an outstanding group of Large Cents. I think you're in good hands there. Also, Chris McCawley can probably tell you more after a 5 second glance than most of us could after 4 hours of research, so you've at least gotten to the right people.

 

Mine is the large letters. I can post a pic if you'd like. Now.....where is the "Golden Triangle area?"