I am assuming yes and am basing this mostly by the dirt still visible in the crevices on the reverse. Thought I'd see what others thought as well.
Hard to tell if harshly cleaned from your photos, but that rim ding at 11:55 is probably enough to warrant a details grade.
Thats a gnarly rim ding. And yeah, your pics aren't good enough for us to give you a solid idea as to if it was cleaned or not.
Given the amount of dark, heavy gunk left in the recesses and around the legends I'd say there is an excellent chance the coin has been cleaned. Whether or not it has been harshly cleaned is still open to question.
Ok, thanks all for the comments. Figured the pics would make it a little difficult but was wondering if others would think the gunk in the crevices on the reverse would be a dead give away. Have loaded two more pics. Best I can do with my point and shoot, magnifying glass, and loupe. As for the mentioned rim ding....actually it looks to be a small rim cud. No damage otherwise.
To follow up : I understand the pics are not that great but unfortunately they are the best I can do with my setup. Based on that, does anyone care to give to a rough estimate as to possible grade, of course keeping in mind it has probably been cleaned. I picked up this coin last weekend at the Santa Clara coin show. It was marked ch. au58+, Paid $90. Expect both are inflated, and want to use this as a learning experience. As to the question of whether it may have been harshly cleaned can someone suggest what I should be looking for when viewing it under a loupe? Also, it looks like there may be some doubling on the "ERI" in the pic below. What does everyone think? Thanks.
The dirt between the letters indicates it has been cleaned. Harshly cleaned coins got distinctive "hair" lines, visible when the light is reflected from the surface under certain angles. Looks to me like a AU50 at most.
Interesting 1866 there mrak. Cleaned? Yes I do believe so, on grade I would say a XF45 details. A few other interesting items I'm seeing: A really good hi res closeup of the obverse and reverse would help, but in-hand look closely at the left banner tip, I think I see a die crack down the left side into leaves then on to the left arrow feathers then toward the date. You need to get magnification to see most of it, also examine the date numerals closely with light from several different angles, you need to look for repunching on all four digits of the date. If those are present I'd advise you to get a hold of a copy of Getting Your Two Cents Worth, by Kevin Flynn. Available at larger coin stores, ebay, Amazon, your local library, the ANA library, etc. On page 77 compare the diagnostics listed for the KF-2-RPD variety to your coin. I see some similarities but can't see them all. Good Luck
I see no obvious signs of cleaning, and dirt in the crevices is not definitive, IMO, it could be natural or a sign of cleaning.
I agree. That first image looks great and the color looks right based on the color of the album page. It looks AU-50 from that one image. I can't tell much from the reverse images.
The rim ding appears to be a small rim cud. The doubling may be common Longacre doubling in that area or machine doubling. Hard to tell with the images provided. But I would consider that coin a keeper.
