Quality of 1878 CC Trade Dollar

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  1. Stewartmac

    Stewartmac New Member

    I have an 1878 CC Trade Dollar that has been slightly discolored. However the coin itself is in AU condition. How would the discoloration impact the value of the coin?
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    It depends. Got a photo?
     
  4. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    You can use photobucket.com for large images it,s free and easy to use ")
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    nnnms. yeah, ya got any pics?
     

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  6. Stewartmac

    Stewartmac New Member

    1983 mint set

    Thanks Hobo! No I do not have a picture. I'll take one as soon as I can. I'm new to CoinTalk and just beginning to realize some of the things I must do to participate successfully.
     
  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Stewart,

    Where did you acquire your Trade Dollar? In case you haven't heard, Trade Dollars are heavily counterfeited. If you can post good, sharp photos we may be able to determine if your TD is genuine or fake. (If it is attracted to a magnet you can stop there because it will be a fake.)
     
  8. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    If it's raw it's probably fake.
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Dan, we can't possibly know that yet...:)
     
  10. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    I know it's extreme to decide without pictures but I'm just stating the likely :thumb:
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Let's just wait for the "head shots".....
     
  12. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

  13. Stewartmac

    Stewartmac New Member

    Thanks Hobo! I've had the coin for about 40 years. . .and no it is not attracted to a magnet. Thanks for the info . . .I never knew that. When I gat a picture I'll send it along.
     
  14. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    Magnet test is only one of hundreds of ways to tell a coin is fake. Just because it doesn't stick to a magnet means it's real.
     
  15. Stewartmac

    Stewartmac New Member

    Stealer . . .what other tests would you suggest?
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    You could do the "ring" test but I wouldn't recommend it with this coin. Silver coins resonate a distinctive sound when dropped on a hard surface.
     
  17. Stewartmac

    Stewartmac New Member

    Thanks green . . .I agree with you . . .I don't think I want to take that chance.
     
  18. Stewartmac

    Stewartmac New Member

    Qualty of 1878 CC Trade Dollar

    Sorry for the delay in getting these pictures posted . . .had to get a new camera! I hope the photo quality is good enough to review the discoloration. . . and for a quality determination on the coin.
     

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  19. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I have to disagree with that statement. Perhaps you meant to say, "Just because it doesn't stick to a magnet DOES NOT mean it's real."

    For the record I would like to clarify my previous statement in case anyone else tries to read more into it than I said or intended. I said:

    I meant exactly what I said. IF the coin is attracted to a magnet it is fake. (And I meant the OP's coin, a Trade Dollar. I know other genuine coins, e.g., 1943 Cents, are attracted to a magnet.) I did NOT say if the coin is NOT attracted to a magnet that means IT IS GENUINE. I only meant that A GENUINE US TRADE DOLLAR WILL NOT BE ATTRACTED TO A MAGNET. Nothing more.

    Sheeeesh! :mad:
     
  20. KenKat

    KenKat Collector

    One of the easier tests is to weigh it. Many fakes will not be of correct weight although this is not definitive. A real one should weigh around 27.2g with perhaps 0.1 or 0.2g acceptable range due to wear.

    Another test is to measure the diameter using calipers and/or the old pi r squared thing - 38.1mm. It's hard to get both the weight and diameter correct.

    Another test I have heard about is to look at the reeding on the edge of the coin. Reeding should be extremely uniform; counterfeits often fall down when the edge is examined. This is probably difficult unless you have another to compare against.

    The fact that it is 40 years old is a good start.
     
  21. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Not a good assumption right out of the shoot.
     
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