I need help with this idea.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tlasch, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    So I am wanting to have either a belt buckle with a slot for an airtight coin case or a hat with a coin holder. The coin is a 2007 Proof Montana State Quarter (where I was born & raised) and it is inside of an airtight coin holder with the foam insulation

    I found this patent but I have yet to find any products. I think it would be something I would love to wear with pride.
    Please if you have not noticed the enlarged font is all hyperlinks so this way you can understand what I am talking about
     
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  3. Honolulu Dick

    Honolulu Dick Junior Member

    A big Aloha to our great Big Sky Country, the Treasure State.

    You have a good idea working for you. Consider keeping the airtight proof coin as a proof, to prevent destroying its value. Use an uncirculated coin for your intended purpose. If it becomes scratched, as belt buckles do, it won't be painful to replace. Any decent jeweler should be able to silver solder a pinning device to the back of a state quarter for use as a hat pin. The heat necessary to melt silver solder would surely destroy the proof of a proof coin.

    Your idea is a neat one. Let us know how you make out
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If I understand your idea correctly you are wanting to enclose a coin in an Air-Tite holder (to protect the coin) and then have that holder inserted in a belt buckle - yes ?

    Well, I suppose you could do it. But - it won't take long before the Air-Tite is so scratched up that you can't even see the coin anymore. Put an Air-Tite in your pocket with 3 or 4 other coins for just 1 day. At the end of that day look at it. You'll see what I mean.

    This is why when people want coin belt buckels they just attach the coin itself to the buckle. Yeah, it ruins (damages) the coin, but there's just no way around it.
     
  5. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    Hi Tlasch, Lucy here. Sorry, no ideas here. Just wanted you to know that MONTANA is the ONLY state quarter that I just CANNOT find, out here in circulated change!!! I have been putting together the whole group. I keep all my Alaska's separate (my favorite), and Michigan. Thought it would be Hawaii that was difficult, but no, it's Montana. Were I to purchase on purpose, that would be different -- my goal is the random finding of the coin. Sigh!

    Someday if I see a guy wearing a Montana on his belt buckle or his hat, I'll know it's you! Good luck, and I bet it will make you feel good when you wear it!
    Regards. Lucy
     
  6. Honolulu Dick

    Honolulu Dick Junior Member

    Another thought has come to mind that may assist you towards developing your state coin project.

    At your local hardware store, ask for a package of J B Weld. This is a 2-part epoxy that comes in two smallish tubes, having a thick-bodied cream texture. Mix a small amount in equal proportions, and using a toothpick, dab what amounts to the size of a drop on the back of a practice coin. Press the coin firmly to another metal surface to spread the mixed epoxy. Let cure overnight and then try to pry the coin free. You will be amazed at the strength of the adhesion.

    Try making a hat pin using the same technique. Epoxy a small safety pin to a practice coin. This may call for more than a single drop - - - try using several drop size dabs. Press the pin into the epoxy and let cure overnight.

    Prepare the surfaces to be epoxied by cleaning them with a green scrubby, liquid dish detergent, rinse and thoroughly dry. Warm air from a hair dryer or a heat lamp speeds the curing process. For your first couple of experiments, overnight curing is recommended.

    Have been using J B Weld for decades to stick metal surfaces together when restoring antique horseless carriages. On critical surfaces where you can't use heat from a torch, it's one of the few affordable ways available for salvation.

    Have fun experimenting. Keep us informed of your progress.
     
  7. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    For only 49.95 plus shipping,tax,and insurance you can get yours today! Just kidding.
     
  8. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Not until harnessing plasma in a portable fashion is feasable.
    ;)
     
  9. sgiorgis

    sgiorgis Student of Numismatics

    Doug is 100% Right!
    Steve
     
  10. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Get two of them. One in an airtight for the collection and one to mount on a buckle to wear. You can polish the belt buckle from time to time and even wax it. But even as a necklace, it's going to get beat up.
     
  11. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Being an old greasy wrench myself, I will attest that JB Weld has saved my posterior, many times.
    It would probly ruin the back of the coin, but would hold it too a buckle.
    What would be neat is if you could take an old glass paper-weight, cut it, mill it out to fit the coin, encase, seal it, and connect to a buckle.
     
  12. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    Hey hey hey ya'll are forgetting that I will be keeping the Proof Coin in an airtight container the coin is held perfectly in place and does not move at all. If worn on a hat, it would not move nor come in contact with anything so the coin will always be cradled safely. Plus the proof coin idea works best for me because of the amazing detail and visibility of the coin. Maybe JBweld to the back of the coin holder onto the hat would work I truly don't know at this point. Thanks for the suggestions keep 'em comming
     
  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    My advice is to contact this company that makes fantastic coin jewelry. I always use a money clip when I play poker and I have several money clips from Aurista. They call the sealing product lenscote which I can't find any information on but the quality of their products is top notch. Here is a photo of one of their money clips and a link to the belt buckle products on their site. I bet if you asked, they would custom make something for you for the right price.

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    http://www.coin-jewelry.com/western.html
     
  14. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    This is truly beautiful, however not only a little out of my price range (especially for a custom order) but not really what I was looking for, thanks for the suggestion however.
     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I doubt you will find on off the counter. Find the belt buckle you want, measure the outside diameter of your coin holder. The either take it to a jeweler, or do your self. you will need a short section of brass, silver, or gold ( if you want to go big time) tubing that is slightly larger than the coin case. Drill a hole in the buckle so the tubing fits through it. Using jeweler's tools, round the "visible edge" slightly so it holds the coin case securely. Peen the inside or solder ( belly side) of the tubing to the buckle securely without the plastic case inside of course.. The coinholder should be able to pass from the inside of the buckle to the visible side. Once there, clear epoxy should hold it almost forever. It is an very enlarged version of a "tube bezel" such as to mount gemstones inside a bracelet, with just the crown showing.

    But it is going to be much more work and expense than using business strikes and buying a roll or them and epoxying a new one on the buckle when it gets trashy. But any bench jeweler could make one for a price.
     
  16. Honolulu Dick

    Honolulu Dick Junior Member

    Haven't exactly for gotten about your determination to keep your proof in an airtight. Was attempting to steer you away from this mindset. The poly-carb airtight presents its own particular set of difficulties. They do well laying on the flat. In the vertical, some tend to separate [cover from base]. The poly-carb scratches easily, detracting from its contents [the real purpose of this exercise].

    To learn what works best for you, go ahead and experiment. Try sticking the airtight to another piece of metal using J B Weld. You may be entirely happy with the results. If so, you learned something new and good on you.

    One word of caution, make certain the airtight snaps together tightly. If not, it may be necessary to get a new one that snaps together with an audible, positive click. Some folks carefully work a drop of nail polish remover between the two halves. The remover softens [melts] the poly-carb, gluing them together. Avoid allowing any to touch the top surface, it will turn the clear cover cloudy.

    Again, request that you keep us informed of your progress.
     
  17. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    Hey Montana,
    Just a thought..why not get ANOTHER Montana coin, use it for one of the ideas you like, let the coin actually show (not in a holder), or have something done like in the pictures in previous post? You can then continue to preserve the 'real one' the way you'd like. I'm thinking that maybe a coin holder/protector showing on someone's hat or belt might not be the 'look', really. :) (p.s. Just an opinion!) (Then again, I haven't ever seen it, so it might 'look' just fine)
    Lucy
     
  18. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    Why not go for NGC's new scratch resistant technology?

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  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You are missing the point. You are wanting to use the Air-Tite holder to protect the coin, and yet still show the beauty of the coin - we all understand that. But what you are apparently not understanding is that if you use an Air-Tite, within just a few days you won't even be able to see that coin anymore. You won't be able to see it because the Air-Tite will be so covered with scrathes that you can't see the coin. There is no way around that.
     
  20. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    Hahaha Ten Points Accredited!
    Did you dp this picture especially for this post?
     
  21. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    I see the point, I thought you were saying the coin it'self would be damaged.

    Btw Status update yall, I have completed the belt design I will post pictures soon (Wife is on vacation with our camera).
    I inlayed the coin into a hard leather rectangle and seamlessly applied it over a rectangular belt buckle.

    However with GDJMSP's note (what I commented on above. I need to find a easy way to either repair scratches daily or to protect the air-tight overall from scratches. Anyone find a way to do this?
     
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