Chinese Coin

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Stratz Sfear, Jan 2, 2006.

  1. Stratz Sfear

    Stratz Sfear New Member

    well, my grandfather has this thing.. and he wants to know whats with it. Its a coin type thing on a chain.. I would like to know

    Who the guy is/story behind him:
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    What it says above him:
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    What the boat is called/story behind it:
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    What it says on either side of the boat:
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    also, any idea what it might be worth? sorry if this is the wrong thread to post in, first time user here :p
     
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  3. quick dog

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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I believe it is a dollar (yuan) issued by the Republic of China in 1933 or '34. The Krause number is - Y #345. Normally value would range from $4 to $45, but because the coin has been made into jewelry any numismatic value is gone. But because the coin was struck in .8800 silver with an ASW of .7555 value would be limited to bullion content - about $6.50
     
  5. Stratz Sfear

    Stratz Sfear New Member

    i believe it might be this coin, and i think your right about it being Sun Yat Sen

    http://www.ahcollect.com/060505/ACG323118.jpg

    do you think i am correct? How much would it go for? How is the price affected by the chain?

    edit** sorry, when i was posting there were no replys yet :p
     
  6. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    [​IMG] to Coin Talk. Chances are it would have taken longer to get an answer in the What's it Worth forum, which is mostly inhabited by collectors of US coins.

    You may have a 1934 Republic of China Yuan/Dollar (KM#345), with a bust of Sun Yat Sen :)thumb: quick dog) on the obverse and a Chinese Junk on the reverse, in the more or less standard silver crown size of ~39mm, and a weight of 26.7000g of .7555 silver.

    The date on the coin is Republic of China Year 23, which is why I say you "may" have that coin. In addition to the 128,470,000 genuine coins minted that year, some 30-million restrikes were produced at three US mints in 1949.

    The 2006 Standard Catalog of World Coins values the real ones at $3-25, depending on grade, and doesn't give a value for the restrikes.

    There are two types of so-called "junk dollars". The 1932 KM#344 has birds flying over the junk, and a rising sun at the lower right edge of the coin - much more attractive to my eye than the later 1933-34 version.

    http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/junk.html is an on-line index to dozens of articles about the venerable Chinese sailing ships known as "junks".
     
  7. Stratz Sfear

    Stratz Sfear New Member

    Well thank you very much everyone, my grandpa was really excited to learn about the story behind it, and was suprised with how fast and how much all of you knew.. he quickly ran off and got some more coins that he is interested in for me to inquire about. First i'll try and do a little research on my own though :p

    Chances are you will see more of me around here.

    Thanks again.
     
  8. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    That link you posted is a wonderful example of why you should never rely on an ACG grade.
    • There's no way that slabbed coin is MS63. Either the strike is far too weak for that grade, or the hair, waves and sail are all showing a lot of wear and it's not MS at all. From the picture I'm inclined toward wear..
    • The name of the man known as the Father of the Chinese Republic is always rendered in English as "Sun Yat Sen". Putting "Sun Yat Sin" on the label reflects either gross ignorance, or horribly careless proof-reading.
     
  9. kvasir

    kvasir Show me the Money**

    Actually "Sun Yat Sin" may reflect a reading closer to its Cantonese/Mandarin origin: syn yaat sin / sūn yìxiān. Also this is only one of Sun's many Chinese given names common for someone from his time. See article on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat_Sen
     
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