Can you tell which is Naturally Toned (NT) or Artificially Toned (AT) from a picture

Try your coin toned instinct by identifying which is AT and/or NT.
All Morgans pictures from left to right 1889, 1883-O, 1898-O. All were purchased recently by me. Which in your opinion is naturally toned or artificially toned? Can you tell which is artifically toned. Can you price how much each cost? Hint two of the coins are not certified only one is a PGCS certified... Answers on my next post...

 

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The 1889 spent some time in an oven.....quite honestly it is impossible to price toners. Thanks for sharing. BTW, are you the one that talked to all those coins?

 

Dimefreak:
You are right it is kind of hard to cost that eye appeal but If only coins could talk back? What would you ask them?

By the way the 1889 did not spent time in the oven...nice try... je,je,je

 

Do you really talk to your coins? I can see you chattin with your morgans like that feller in the movie " Full Metal Jacket", he talked to his rifle and you know what happened...

 

ahh another joker... Maybe you want to enlighten the audience (for those who have not seen the movie) what happened? Obviously you saw the movie...

 

I really have no clue other than the 1889 looks fishy. I hope its not the 1898 because that has a lot of eye appeal to me and I would be heart broken if it was AT'd, but I have a feeling it was.

 

I can assure you that at some point the 1889 was artificially toned, the source was heat ( I guess that does'nt mean it was an oven) The reason the coin was artificially toned was to cover up the two distracting gouges.The dead giveaway is the plethora of small brown spots.The spots on the 1889 are not carbon spots and can be removed just as easy as the artificial toning. Coin number two showcases a nice crescent but your inability to not talk to your coins caused it to form carbon spots:devil:. coin number three is hard to judge with such small pictures. you might also consider showing both sides of the coins.
thanks
Dimefreak

 

Here are the results

A. 1889 was certified by PCGS - NT
b. 1883-O was certified by NGC - NT
c. 1898 - is being argued that is AT. The question is should I try sending it to certify with eithr PCGS or NGC? It is my beleive that this coin was Artificially toned...

 

Mind showing the whole holder obverse side up of the 1889?
also without having the coin in hand nobody can really tell you if the 1898 is 100 percent NT......it is however easier to spot the AT coins.

 

Here's the observe

 

Interesting, I am surprised they deemed that one market acceptable. You do see all the brown spots I am refering to?

 

Auction price paid on each is as follows:

1889 $256
1883-O $138
1898-O $163.00

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Yeap... and look at the price the sucker of ME paid... but then again how can you value art but by what was paid? As they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

 

That doesn't make you a sucker, that makes you a collector. I cant tell you how many times I have heard that my $200-$400 dollar Roosevelts are only worth silver spot, But I just keep on buying them.

keep enjoying the hobby!:thumb:

 

Right ON buddie...and for that kind of money we collectors at least get to talk to them all we want... right? je,je,je

 

I think the TPGs clearly got the first two right....I had no concerns about them being NT from your im ages...the 1898-O looks clearly AT to me but it's not an AT screamer so I can see how some might argue NT. As far as the priced paid....this is something I clearly know a lot about as both a buyer and seller of toned coins for more than 5 years. The 1889 looks to be about a $200 dollar coin based on the double sided toning but $250 is still a reasonable price and I could see other collectors stepping up to pay that. The 1883-O I would value at at least $125 due to the rainbow toning on the money side of the coin....you paid the right price for that coin...good job. The 1898-O...even if it was NT would only be worth about $80 bucks tops....not enough color or eye appeal be worth anywhere near what you paid and being that it's raw...that would drop the buy price even lower.