A 1909 S VDB auction on ebay - fake?

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  1. Rhino89

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  3. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    Not sure - the pictures leave a little to be desired.
     
  4. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

    That coin is a fake. The S looks like a D and the date is not right.
     
  5. coervi

    coervi Lincoln Collector

    Im not sure why the "s" would look like a "D" but i woudnt buy it.
     
  6. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Raw key? ebay? Sure, it's real....NOT.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    There is nothing I can see that screams counterfeit to me, but there only one minor marker (offset VDB) that I can make out.
     
  8. coervi

    coervi Lincoln Collector

    I messages the seller and asked for larger pics, lets see if they will give them to me.
     
  9. Rhino89

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    Winning bid of $152 for the 1909 S, and $40 for the standing liberty quarter.
     
  11. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    The penny is FAKE! Notice the weak strike areas on the reverse of the coin.
     
  12. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Well, his location means there probably isn't a market for his coins. I mean in order to show them to anyone, he almost HAS to use eBay. The low feedback might mean, he is just starting out with this. I didn't see anything on the 1909 s vdb that seemed an intent to defraud anyone, and he did list the quarter as a "counterfeit" coin. What I am thinking is, that this guy is a collector or someone who bought some collections and is trying to start an on-line coin business. He listed what he thought would be the most marketable items first thinking they would bring him a higher return. I made that mistake too. But, obviously, there probably aren't many US coin collectors in Monterrey, MX. And with the cost of US coins there, I doubt many are joining the club ?

    I am sorry this ended before I saw it. I already missed the 1988 RDV-006 that sold for $26. Darn it !
     
  13. coervi

    coervi Lincoln Collector

    Yes i agree, but with the coin selling for 20 times less than its worth is not a smart move, and yes the 88 rdv for 26 buck im mad too I had the bid for the whole listing except for when itcounted. But the wheat cent, i think the vdb looks off to me.
     
  14. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Well, the 1988 was ANACS. The 1909 s is raw. Either the seller has......had a good one and didn't realize just how important it was to get it graded or didn't know how to go about it or the coin is not what he thought it was.

    I used 1000x on he enlarged pic and agree the weak strike on the reverse didn't look quite right. If I had this one, I would have sent it in. If it indeed was UNC of course, he wins one.

    But, I got a feeling that in this economy there are getting to be a lot of guys who want to sell some coins to raise cash. Especially inherited stuff. But there are a lot of us who start out without a clue as to how to do it. And we lose a lot learning the proceedure. Heck, I sold complete proof sets for less than the melt value of the half. Trying to save on seller fees by listing for 99c can be a huge mistake.

    gary
     
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  17. Derekg

    Derekg Member

    As a person who has been to Monterrey, MX for the past 16 years i will tell you that they have movies pirated 4 days before they come out in the movies at your movie theaters. IMO i can easily tell its fake. As well with 90% brand name or valuable stuff of the things you buy from Mexico will be pirated.
     
  18. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Let see...the seller has a feedback of 6, he's based out of Mexico, and he's selling an uncertified key date coin that normally retails for well over a thousand dollars...nope, I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.
     
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