Four beautiful "liberty" presidential gold spouses.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by elaine 1970, Dec 6, 2008.

  1. sunflower

    sunflower New Member

    I like those shinning wooden boxes with golden packaging too. The part that I get challengened on, is opening the packaging from other sources than USMINT, and not damage the golden cardboard. I won't say which company I played catchup on the F.S., but that was a trick after damaging one box real bad when opening.

    To be more specific to the main subject of presentation boxes - it is storing them that I get a little overwelmed with. I empty the boxes out anymore before storing in the safety deposit box. They were just taking up too much room at the bank. Someday, it will be a challenge to get them all in their rightful place again.

    Also, has anyone noticed that the round plastic holders have been changed (smaller size rounds, not as thick?)
     
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  3. krispy

    krispy krispy

    sunflower: you can see the difference in the Mint capsule sizes/types in some pics Mike/illini420 posted a short while back
     
  4. sunflower

    sunflower New Member

    Thanks Kripsy.

    The different sized holders seem to fit the box fine. I sort of like the larger ones - makes the coin feel bigger too. (wink)
     
  5. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I don't have any FS coins, but I like the larger holders, they seem more roomy :D... At least it 'feels' like there's more protection if dropped :eek:! Also reminds me of the amount of space that's around a ring type Air Tite holder. One could always buy empty capsules and boxes on eBay and swap coins into the same sized capsules for a uniform presentation.
     
  6. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    2007w-- martha------ proof----$838.00
    2007w-- martha------ unc------$693.00
    2007w-- abigail------ proof----$718.00
    2007w-- abigail------ unc------$693.00
    2007w-- jefferson--- proof----$873.00
    2007w-- jefferson--- unc------$698.00
    2007w-- dolley------ proof----$702.00
    2007w-- dolley------ unc------$698.00
    2008w-- elizabeth--- proof----$928.00
    2008w-- elizabeth--- unc------$878.00
    2008w-- loiusa------ proof----$873.00
    2008w-- loiusa------ unc------$878.00
    2008w-- van buren-- proof--$1,062.00
    2008w-- van buren-- unc----$1,112.00
    2008w-- jackson---- proof--$1,062.00
    2008w-- jackson---- unc----$1,112.00
    2009w-- anna------- proof----$973.00
    2009w-- anna------- unc---$1,112.00
    2009w-- letitia------ proof----$973.00
    2009w-- letitia------ unc---$1,013.00
    2009w-- julia------- proof--$1,373.00
    2009w-- julia------- unc---$1,398.00
    2009w-- sarah------ proof---$973.00
    2009w-- sarah------ unc-----$973.00
     
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    what is this price list? where is it from? are you selling in the forums? that's against the rules. :eek:
     
  8. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    @Sunflower

    The Mint changed the coin capsule for the FS series starting in 2008. I don't know why. I assume they changed supply vendors. Also, all the boxes produced during 2007, whether it is the single coin box or the 4 coin box, only fit those capsules.
     
  9. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    Whatever those prices are, they are really high end retail prices and not really what the coins are worth if you tried to sell them.

    I was at the Long Beach show yesterday and a dealer was selling a Martha Washington Proof for $675 and a Elizabeth Monroe Proof for $875. If I wanted them I'm sure I could have gotten them cheaper.

    If you're selling, it's my experience that the 2007 coins basically sell for melt value.

    The 2008-2010 coins will be sold for melt to most dealers as they see all First Spouse coins as junk and worth only melt. However, even the greysheet has started to post higher prices for the 2008 and more recent spouse coins so some dealers will pay a premium for the 2008 to date pieces.

    But those prices posted by elaine are very optimistic or are maybe the retail prices for MS70 certified examples.
     
  10. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thanks Mike. That's pretty much what I assumed, "high end retail". Knowing Elaine, those prices are probably collected from Apmex based on other threads that she has posted un-sourced figures for, in the highest price ranges to suit her upward bias... as you may know, she only posts the largest numbers she can find, the sun is always shining, rainbows and unicorns and PM cheerleaders abound!
     
  11. Ladies First

    Ladies First Since 2007

    You're getting me excited.
     
  12. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    8,315 letitia
    7,691 julia
    8,658 sarah
    7,355 margaret
    8,059 abigail
    6,082 jane
    9,055 liberty
     
  13. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    are you ready for new price increase by next week?.

    first spouse proof - $829.00
    first spouse unc - $816.00
     
  14. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    osss... it can be another bracket higher again. proof $854.00 unc $841.00. only if gold average pass $1,350.00 and stay there.
     
  15. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    letitia ----8,315
    julia -----7,691
    sarah ----8,658
    margaret-7,355
    abigail ---8,059
    jane ----6,082
    liberty ---9,055
     
  16. dave92029

    dave92029 Member

    2009 Letitia Tyler 5,163 3,152 8,315 55.4%
    2009 Julia Tyler 4,830 2,861 7,691 51.3%
    2009 Sarah Polk 5,157 3,501 8,658 57.7%
    2009 Margaret Taylor 4,512 3,066 7,578 50.5%
    2010 Abigail Fillmore 5,008 3,116 8,124 54.2%
    2010 Jane Pierce 3,965 2,254 6,219 41.5%
    2010 Buchanan Liberty 5,697 3,801 9,498 63.3%

    % of Maximum mintage
     
  17. Ladies First

    Ladies First Since 2007

    Technically, all the 2009s have a Max Mintage of 40,000 so Taylors' would be more like 18.9%.

    PS: I think Mary will be raised to 20K across both options.
     
  18. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    Unless the Buchanan coin sells out the 15,000 max, I don't see any reason they would raise the max mintage on the Mary Todd Lincoln coin. I see people here repeatedly predicting that the Mrs. Lincoln coin will be very popular but I'm not buying in to that. Sure, it may be a bit more popular than the two Tyler spouse coins, but do you all really think more collectors are going to come out of the woodwork and jump into the First Spouse series for a Mrs. Lincoln coin and buy in larger numbers than the last three Liberty designs??? I seriously doubt it. Sure, there are tons of Lincoln collectors out there, myself included, who would pretty much buy anything Lincoln that is made by the Mint. But I think most of us really only care about Abe Lincoln and aren't as willing to jump all over a coin honoring his wife, especially at $800+ per coin!!! Perhaps if Abe was on the reverse of the coin, then I could see it selling in stronger numbers than the recent Liberty designs but that isn't the case.

    So for those of you thinking the Mary Todd Lincoln coin will be super popular and bring new collectors to these Spouse coins, how about providing some back up reasoning to your prediction and help me understand :)
     
  19. Ladies First

    Ladies First Since 2007

    I was just reporting on the Mint's announced mintage caps; I should have said "I hear" rather than "I think!" I do think Mary will sell better than any '09 but probably not by much.
     
  20. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    ohhhhlaaaalaaaa - Just wanted to get everyone's attention. :devil:

    IMG_9466.jpg IMG_9471.jpg IMG_9460.jpg IMG_9463.jpg
     
  21. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    how much is the box for four coin set?.
     
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