1940-S cent, Cud on reverse - Commentary/confirmation please. :)

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by gboulton, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. gboulton

    gboulton 7070 56.98 pct complete

    Hello, folks.

    been lurking for a bit now, figured I'd finally break my silence and request some commentary on this coin. I'm certainly no expert on error coins (or anything else in this hobby) so I welcome any and all comments.

    This is a 1940-S Lincoln Cent with what to my untrained eye appears to be a fairly significant major die break, or "cud" on the reverse, on the edge directly right of the "T".

    Not looking for a value per se (Though, if someone happens to just have one off hand, I'd be interested) as i'm guessing this isn't anything tremendously valuable...rather, I just find it interesting. I've had it for quite a while, and just figured it would be as good a subject as any for my first post. :)

    Thanks in advance, everyone.

    (Higher res scans of obv and full rev available if desired)
     

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  3. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    It's called a retained cud. Nice find!

    and Welcome to Coin Talk!
     
  4. gboulton

    gboulton 7070 56.98 pct complete

    Well there you go then. Thanks for the info, ikandiggit! Indeed, that phrase allowed me to find this e-bay auction which provides some idea of the asking price, and seems to confirm it as a known error.

    And tha nks for the welcome, as well. Not a bad start, I'd say! *heh*
     
  5. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    Yikes! 52 different cuds/retained die cuds for the 1940-S wheat cents in my book, a very common date/mint mark for this error.
     
  6. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I'm not so sure that cud was retained.
     
  7. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    You may be right.... I think it's time for a new LCD screen.:eek:
     
  8. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Or it could just be time for me to get rid of this CRT monitor. This thing's gotten me into a lot of trouble before!
     
  9. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    The op's pic is a little blurry. I've adjusted the contrast on my screen. I don't see any of the wheat stalk in the cud which I believe should be there if it's "retained". But if it was just a cud, shouldn't it be raised and not indented because it would have broken off the die?
     
  10. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I'm not sure if it has to be a deep enough break to obscure all elements of the design or not in order to be called a full cud. Maybe it's just called a shallow cud. :D
     
  11. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    :thumb:Let's go with that.
     
  12. gboulton

    gboulton 7070 56.98 pct complete

    *heh* Wow...this thread exploded. :)

    First, robbudo, thanks for the extra information about the commonality. Certainly born out in the fact that it's awfully easy to find examples of this nature online anywhere from $5-$25.

    next, my apologies for the blurry first image. Was in something of a hurry. This evening I'll see if i can't produce a better scan with more detail.

    I'm thoroughly enjoying the conversation...it's precisely what I'd hoped to generate. Not being an error-coin collector (or a very advanced collector at ALL) this is all good stuff to me! :)
     
  13. gboulton

    gboulton 7070 56.98 pct complete

    Ok. Much better scan. Comments welcome, of course. :)
     

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  14. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Your's isn't a retained cud. Here's an example of what one looks like:

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  15. gboulton

    gboulton 7070 56.98 pct complete

    Ok, the difference certainly seems clear enough to me.

    But what, then, IS mine? Just a cud?

    And..more to the point (for me at least...since the whole issue here is that it's kinda neat and I'm enjoying the education *heh*) How's a mark like that happen on a penny? I mean...what could the process be that would leave such clearly defined "rims" on both sides, with a blank "valley" between them??? Any ideas?
     
  16. 50cent

    50cent What A steal

  17. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I'm not sure what to call it or how that happened. We'll have to wait for one of the Lincoln guru's to show up and explain it.
     
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