1900-O Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marshall, Jul 15, 2010.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I have proveb myself to be totally inept at judging high grade coins and/or toners. I would like to ask for comments (Grade?, VAM?, Tone?) on the best Morgan of 15 that I have. I'm posting axial images for toning and detail so the surfaces are very muted from in hand.

    If I should blow up any area of the coin, let me know since all these images are 1.2M and should take blowups well. I turned the coin for different lighting direction.

    Thanks,
    Marshall

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  3. WingedLiberty

    WingedLiberty Well-Known Member

    I too am no grading expert ... but here is a 1900-O Morgan graded MS65 by PCGS for comparitive purposes. Yours look very nice. I will let others chime in on a grading guess.

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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Can't help ya with VAMS, but that one is no better than a 63.
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    1900-O is a date with a large number of VAMS, Check this page if you haven't yet, and try to narrow down to a few you suspect ( it is much easier with the coin in hand) and you would know what landmarks to photograph. This issue can be sorted by date position or reverse, to help make ID easier. This site is a necessity for anyone determining VAMs. Looks original toning.

    http://www.vamworld.com/1900-O+VAMs
    Jim
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Check it against the VAM-40 "Very High O" mintmark.

    Chris
     
  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    The VAM 40 looks like a good match. I thought the prominent die break connecting the tops of UNITED and STAT would help, but it hasn't. There is also a break in an arc in the inner wreath below N (UNITED) and a verticle break from the bottom of the n (In God...) to the eagles wing. On the right side below the eagles wing is either a break or a clash to the second cluster of leaves.
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Die cracks aren't usually mentioned in the VAM listings unless they contribute significantly to a particular die state. That isn't a break inside the lefthand wreath. It is the bridge of Liberty's nose from a die clash. If you look above it, you will see her chin also along the inside of the lefthand wreath. Also clashed is Liberty's neckline which you see extending vertically from the "n" of IGWT to the edge of the eagle's right wing (viewer's left) and the "cap vee" of the Phrygian cap inside the righthand wreath. All of these clashes are fairly common and aren't usually mentioned in VAM descriptions. The only clashes of any significance are letter transfers.

    Chris
     
  9. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    That looks like VAM 40 to me. Grade is MS-63. Value around $75 - $100.
     
  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Thank you all. I would definitely have misgraded it (too low as usual) and had no ideas on VAM.
     
  11. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    Are those your pics, Marshall? They're really good.
     
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Yes. Strangely enough, I found silver much easier than copper and gold almost impossible. Unfortunately, I still can't get both detail AND normal reflectivity in the same shot. The coin in hand looks almost blast white, but I lose all the detail if I try to capture it.
     
  13. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually. I'm the same in regards to copper, and unfortunately, I don't have any gold to photograph, haha.

    Regarding the coin, I'd grade it MS62 or so because of that nasty mark on the nose. Still a really nice coin though.
     
  14. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Just bumping this old post for 900fine.
     
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