found in hoard that has been unsearched since 1957

Ive really done some searching and my conclusion is that this coin is a 1883 small denomination territorial gold struck on a 1845 hard times token the reverse is also 25% off tell me what you think

 

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Care to elaborate? Your coin looks like a copper token with verderis. Clarification may change minds!

 

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I dint see where you got any of this.

 

Interesting conclusion....


WHAT?

 

gold dollar round indian head date beneath head, on indian head hard times token ther is also a three behind the two and a / symbol , there is writing by her nose and along the edge. also on right side of reverse

 

You may want to search this site (check each of the states at the bottom of the page. If you can't find it there, email them with the information you have:

http://www.civilwartokens.com/civil_war_store_cards.htm

 

interesting...Q is this coin yours or found off a thread...really like the fact of the hoard unsearched since 1957

 

Ohhh okay I see now.
Nice find if you can get it slabbed that would slap.

 

A gold fractional dollar die would be about half the diameter of a dime. An 1845 hard times token die would be just a little smaller than a half dollar. Quite a mis-match don't you think? And I don't see any evidence of the reverse being off-center. 25% corrored off yes. No this is an 1863 store card civil war token. Sorry can't tell you which one.

 

I feel like I'm reading an eBay listing.

Really, y2koinking, it makes no difference whether or not it's unsearched. For all we know it could be a contemporary counterfeit.

One last thing, 25% off centered is pretty dramatic. I don't see it at all.

 

you tell me what it is with now the dates 1883 1845 the numbers and symbols $,2, 3, 1, /, 2, $, $ ,< all visible and two faces visible on obverse and the reverse is 25% off the rotation not the strike.. this is a bad $#% coin

 

y2k, I don't mean to criticize but I find it very difficult to read your posts. It would be helpful if you could use punctuation (e.g., periods and question marks) and break your posts into sentences.

 

and I said 1845 gold. the gold part was a researched assumption.. the date shows

 

It is my opinion that this is a store card token with an obverse that resembles a liberty head. Gold does not behave in the manner as this specimen exhibits.

Do try to be kind with your replies. The folks who responded to your enquiry are quite knowledgeable. Being obnoxious will only result in being ignored.

 

y2k,

You have gotten your answer. It is a severely damaged, common CWT - Civil War Token. If you want to believe it is a gold Hard Times Token that is your prerogative but very few here will agree with you.

 

I agree it is not gold and is a civil war store card.

 

its obviously copper but the pattern is gold and token

 

1845 is hard to read i m guessing the 4 because of the pattern when I turn the indian to the left i see left facing bust with another date

 

if its comon show me one

 

I recommend acquiring a copy of this book: Russell Rulau's Standard Catalog of United States Tokens 1700-1900. You could also probably go to a dealer's store and look the token up while in the store.

http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Catalog-United-States-1700-1900/dp/0873419898/ref=pd_sim_b_2